ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[Dave45]

Well at least I got the last name correct 

I read up on this a few weeks ago. My take is the perpendicular coils are such to reduce RF interference. The reason it powers itself is because it is a crystal radio receiver. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio

The only difference is the larger speaker that was used by adding a voltage doubler to match the impedance.

Yea Im not sure about this I just thought it was interesting so I mapped the field.

[Dave45]

Well at least I got the last name correct 

I read up on this a few weeks ago. My take is the perpendicular coils are such to reduce RF interference. The reason it powers itself is because it is a crystal radio receiver. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio

The only difference is the larger speaker that was used by adding a voltage doubler to match the impedance.

This would decrease rf interference because it would pull the electric field which is in the rf range into the magnetic field of the other coil, this would contain the fields from both the coils so this makes sense.
Thanks
dave

[Magluvin]

Very interesting stuff Dave.  ;]

Im interested, but still dont get the how of it. Like having an understanding as to design or use such a configuration.

Like if we have a toroid, do we need 2 coils, one wound in one direction and the other in the opposite direction?

Or, is it 1 coil, like the one coil guy ;] , but how do we extract from it, and what do we expect to get from it compared to a conventional transformer? 

From what Ive read of your posts here, maybe its like this....

Maybe

We use big power to energize the field, remove the input, now the field is perpetual. The when we influence the field with kicks, more energy can be extracted than what was spent in kicks, while still, the initial perpetuating field remains while kicking and extracting.

It would seem that we could use a toroid core, cut it into pieces and insert(glue) neo mags between cor pieces to create a simulated magnetically energized core with a coil wound on it, and then we just kick it and extract.

"then we just kick it"  sounds easy. 

I wonder if a neo ring could be made that way? It would be inconvenient to wind it and flash it with big power then unwind commercially. They are probably not made. No use for them.     But maybe if you wind the neo ring(toroid) how might the coil engage with the field within the core, unless some of the field escapes the neo ring surface. Might have to charge the coil anyway just to get it to engage the field inside the core.  lol, ok  back to the grind, lunch is over.

Ok, thanks for the input again. Nitty gritty. ;]

Mags

[Magluvin]

Just reread what you wrote today Dave,

Lets say the one coil guy, puts another coil on the other side of the core.

We charge the first coil to get our permanent magnetic field. The we kick the other(additional) coil with 5v, but we get more emf from it when we disconnect the 5v kick?

While the setup is in this state of holding or perpetuating the fields, Any coil on the core will disrupt or collapse the permanent field if the additional coil is shorted or loaded? Or can the PF(perpetuated field)only be dissipated by shorting or loading the original charging coil?

And if any coil on the core can dissipate the field by shorting/loading, then how can we kick it and extract from it, without altering the field by dissipation or even maybe building upon it, altering it?  Would we need the kicks polarity to be correct,  as to not harm the PF?   Yet still again, wont extraction destroy the PF? 



Mags

[forest]

Magluvin this is simpler that you think. We want electric field not disturbed or in other terms no back EMF.
Look here http://sub.allaboutcircuits.com/images/02002.png . Seems like Lockridge device,right ?
I may be wrong but it could be only because I'm having problems with memory and lost some school knowledge but anyway listen because it's important idea.
Magic is in OUR free will. Let's see on schematic and tell me what we can change without changing topology ?
Tips : What is the reason of back EMF ??!!! What is the rule to find magnetic field generated by flowing current ? Electrons are like small magnets ,correct ? Now are you ready to tell me what is the source of back EMF ?