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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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Magluvin

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 05, 2012, 02:23:06 AM


In a single isolated transformer, we have the primary and secondary, now the primary is connected to the source, because of the effect of primary the secondary power is generated without connection to the primary, its a clear gain in the secondary is it not?

its just 1 +1 equals = free energy 


In battery and 1 cap: charge the cap then connect them in series you get more volts than the source is it not?

Ok, if we charge a cap with a battery, 12v, then put the cap in series with a load, we have 24v, and diminishing, into the load. But isnt it all of the time, in this process that the battery is putting out power?
First we are charging the cap with the battery(taking from the battery), then in series combo with the cap, the battery has to pump out more power, due to the higher current through the circuit because the voltage has been doubled to the specified load. ???

Its hard to see any advantage to it. :o ;D

And speaking of the input to a primary and the output to a secondary, something makes me wonder.

We could arrange a single half cycle rectifier on the secondary output to a cap, 2 ways. 

1 way, when the primary gets its pulse input, the secondary rectifier is setup to charge the cap, in phase with the primary input. So the immediate load on the secondary would draw more from the source through the primary, during the input pulse.

Another way is to arrange the output rectifier so that it does not conduct in phase with the input pulse. So the cap gets charged when the input pulse ends and the field collapse reverses and then charges the cap.

It seems odd that in both situations that there is near good efficiency results. In the first example, the primary and secondary fluxes act with each other, and in the second example, they dont. Yet we get similar results in efficiency. Strange. :o ;)

MaGs  :o :o ;D

Magluvin

Quote from: IWD on August 05, 2012, 10:51:53 AM


I am also little curious about your wondering about amount of current when discharging capacitor in series with battery, tension force from the capacitor simply pulling another current from battery until the capacitor is neutralised. It is like connectiong two batteries in way they are in direct short ciruit. So they will explode if you do that. (or if you will use sufficiently large capacitor)

Well, it doesnt work like that. First we charge the cap, then series with the battery, then, apply the load(resistive) and the cap ends up charged to the source voltage in the opposite polarity of the initial charge. ;]  Now, instead of recharging the cap for another go, we just flip it over and discharge again.

Just thinking about it. I dont know if there is an advantage yet. Because we are still pulling more current from the battery than with the battery alone, with each discharge.

MaGs

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Tito L. Oracion

Quote from: Magluvin on August 07, 2012, 11:11:26 PM
Ok, if we charge a cap with a battery, 12v, then put the cap in series with a load, we have 24v, and diminishing, into the load. But isnt it all of the time, in this process that the battery is putting out power?
First we are charging the cap with the battery(taking from the battery), then in series combo with the cap, the battery has to pump out more power, due to the higher current through the circuit because the voltage has been doubled to the specified load. ???

Its hard to see any advantage to it. :o ;D

And speaking of the input to a primary and the output to a secondary, something makes me wonder.

We could arrange a single half cycle rectifier on the secondary output to a cap, 2 ways. 

1 way, when the primary gets its pulse input, the secondary rectifier is setup to charge the cap, in phase with the primary input. So the immediate load on the secondary would draw more from the source through the primary, during the input pulse.

Another way is to arrange the output rectifier so that it does not conduct in phase with the input pulse. So the cap gets charged when the input pulse ends and the field collapse reverses and then charges the cap.

It seems odd that in both situations that there is near good efficiency results. In the first example, the primary and secondary fluxes act with each other, and in the second example, they dont. Yet we get similar results in efficiency. Strange. :o ;)

MaGs  :o :o ;D


In one switching we can charge more than one caps in parallel and in one switching we can arrange them in series, supposedly if we have three bats then doing that to other bats then discharging those lifted up volts sequentially.


we can actually do it in one bats only ok!


;D 

Magluvin

Ok Teets. Just thought of something and gunna put it out there before I try it. ;]

As we were talking about this earlier, I wasnt thinking of a large cap. I was also thinking that the cap fully discharges.

But if it were a large cap, pre charged by the battery, then in series with the battery, then we discharge just a bit of the high voltage of the batt in series with the cap, into a coil, then let the coil dump into just the battery. The all we need to do is replenish the cap  from the battery with the little we used.

The battery will lose energy when charging the cap, but it only has to fill it from empty once. From there it is just topping off.

The battery will also lose energy when discharging into the coil while in series with the equally charged cap.

When initially charging the cap and in topping off, it is probably a good idea to make the transfer from the battery to the cap, through a coil, as to not lose 50% of what the battery discharged while charging the cap directly.

UGh  I dunno. I gotta get some sleeps.

Mags