ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[Leely]

Talking about choke, why not a primary of a stepdown transformer

[Leely]

  For instance, if the engine is of 200 horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower.  That is how these wonderful effects are produced.  The condenser is the most wonderful instrument,

can someone explain to me what Tesla was talking about; 200 horsepower, and you're taking 5000 horsepower?

[DilJalaay]

For All those disbelievers, here is Tesla telling us ou/ energy amplifications, more energy than input etc etc...

Counsel

Speaking of your not having perfectly undamped waves at that time, you were referring to that character of circuit?

Tesla

Yes, but with another kind of circuit I could, of course.  The advantage of this apparatus was the delivering of energy at short intervals whereby one could increase activity, and with this scheme I was able to perform all of those wonderful experiments which have been reprinted from time to time in the technical papers.  I would take energy out of a circuit at rates of hundreds or thousands of horsepower.  In Colorado, I reached 18 million horsepower activities, but that was always by this device: Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time.  You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave.  The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more.  That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.

I have refined this so that I have been able to take energy out of engines by drawing on their momentum.  For instance, if the engine is of 200 horsepower, I take the energy out for a minute interval of time, at a rate of 5,000 or 6,000 horsepower, then I store [it] in a condenser and discharge the same at the rate of several millions of horsepower.  That is how these wonderful effects are produced.  The condenser is the most wonderful instrument, as I have stated in my writings, because it enables us to attain greater activities than are practical with explosives.  There is no limit to the energy which you can develop with a condenser.  There is a limit to the energy which you can develop with an explosive.

so what you people thinks, he were getting that much big power with these time Edison 110DC.
Noway impossible, other wise he just used all electricty of the city alone in his labority.




So here are the points:


1) damped oscillation is the key.
2) charge capacitor very fast.
3) fastest make break

Counsel[/size]
I understood a little while ago when you made the statement of using several thousand horsepower put into a condenser, you could take out of the condenser a million horsepower.  I wondered if you got the same condition with this machine.[/size]
Tesla[/size]
Yes; I charged the condenser with 40,000 volts.  When it was charged full, I discharged it suddenly, through a short circuit which gave me a very rapid rate of oscillation.  Let us suppose that I had stored in the condenser 10 watts.  Then, for such a wave there is a flux of energy of (4 x 104)², and this is multiplied by the frequency of 100,000.  You see, it may go into thousands or millions of horsepower.[/size]
Counsel[/size]
What I wanted to get at was, did that depend upon the suddenness of the discharge?[/size]
Tesla[/size]
Yes.  It is merely the electrical analogue of a pile driver or a hammer.  You accumulate energy through a long distance and then you deliver it with a tremendous suddenness.  The distance through which the mass moves is small—the pressure immense.[/size]

[Grumage]

can someone explain to me what tesla was talking about; 200 horsepower, and you're taking 5000 horsepower?

Dear Leely.

Two centuries ago Horsepower was the accepted term of power measurement. You have to remember that this was the age of the steam engine !! The internal combustion engine was in it's infancy, as was electricity. Very hard to imagine these days !! 

At some point in time someone then calculated that One Horsepower equalled 746 Watts. This also related to the term Watt from the fact that James Watt had been the person to first quantify the power generated by his improvements to the steam engine !!  See here for greater clarification.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower

Another point to mention is the word "minute" this can have two meanings!!  60 seconds or very small !! I think Tesla was meaning the latter.

I hope this explanation helps ??

Cheers Grum.

[Leely]

Ok