ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[Google]

There's no point in theoretical discussion. They get you nowhere.
Let's stick to facts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr9JHegfymA

Yeah this guys from EF. I saw this earlier but too dark to make out the diff. I got some AC copper tubes lying around, will try and see the diff. Thanks a.king21.

[jbignes5]

JB knows the better half of Voltage but wont tell openly.  Thats JBs secret like Tito's secret. You wanna know whats in the black box ?  Start buttering JB. 

The electrical universe. 

I am learning as we speak. You might want to take the hint there.


What is the point of your posts other than spamming smiles and such witty retorts to something you obviously don't understand.. Last page there were over 10 posts of nothing but fill. Most being very unuseful. Quite the distraction.. Obviously you don't want answers you want to poke fun at this whole process and take things out of context even when reading from a book. Cherry picking the lines from a definition only allows you to justify your half understanding of the topic.

[Google]

I am learning as we speak. You might want to take the hint there.


What is the point of your posts other than spamming smiles and such witty retorts to something you obviously don't understand.. Last page there were over 10 posts of nothing but fill. Most being very unuseful. Quite the distraction.. Obviously you don't want answers you want to poke fun at this whole process and take things out of context even when reading from a book. Cherry picking the lines from a definition only allows you to justify your half understanding of the topic.

Is it really that difficult to understand ? If you can simply explain what you think without philosophising the scientific facts, no one will resort to witty retorts.

I tell you something practical and interesting now.

ERfinder has much less posts than many veterans like you, but they all are very profound and deep and one can learn a lot from his posts.

But your posts indicate that you seem to have some idea of something different but you are making so much milkshake of Voltage in your posts that they become useless crap instead of meaningful and coherent ideas.

No point in trying to gauge my depth, you will need a longer measure than you probably have. You dont even know who am I and why am I here having so much fun with people spewing endless half truths.



Can your secret half of electricity make 1000 Mega Watts from 1 gram of Hydrogen ? 

Gotta learn more and more  Uncle  JB. 

[jbignes5]

Is it really that difficult to understand ? If you can simply explain what you think without philosophising the scientific facts, no one will resort to witty retorts.

I tell you something practical and interesting now.

ERfinder has much less posts than many veterans like you, but they all are very profound and deep and one can learn a lot from his posts.

But your posts indicate that you seem to have some idea of something different but you are making so much milkshake of Voltage in your posts that they become useless crap instead of meaningful and coherent ideas.

No point in trying to gauge my depth, you will need a longer measure than you probably have. You dont even know who am I and why am I here having so much fun with people spewing endless half truths.



Can your secret half of electricity make 1000 Mega Watts from 1 gram of Hydrogen ? 

Gotta learn more and more  Uncle  JB. 

Oh I know who you are and where you are employed. This kind of tactic is Rule number 2 in their handbook.


And to tell you the truth I don't care to investigate any further who you are and why you are here.

One important thing is very clear. IF we are to explain what is happening in any system we MUST know how it really works. Not misunderstandings from 100 years ago but really know what is going on. We should be able to distill it down from a certain point and be reasonable sure we know what is really going on. But we can not do this if we ignore half of the situation. If we ignore half of the flows across the conductors then what is outside is not as important as what is inside of that wire! We conveniently ignore half of the equation in all aspects of current electronic theory except where it is explicitly needed to be explained. Like RF and negative ion generators. There is a field around everything. This field is Electric in nature. It allows induction because the foundation of the network is built in each piece of matter. Matter gets it's potential from this and flows start a flowing. Once that process is started it pretty much rolls along in our Universe.

If this view is taken by the mainstream and we find out that we do not need to add power from an external source to get useful force then we have a chance. If we are going to sit here and post link after link debating weather my view is correct then it does nothing at all to have this Thread. We are not here to devise OU from our current system. Time after time it has netted us nothing because magnetics is a conservative effect. We need to explore alternative views in order to do this. We can not Hang on the past religiously guarded revelations about energy because they do not work. That viewpoint will only net you Unity at best. We need a new view with fresh eyes to see the truth. The new view is to focus on what is Voltage. How is it related to current and the resulting magnetic fields that come from Voltage fields.
Here is a question to you: What do you have if there is no potential differences at all? I Tell you what you have......

NOTHING!!!!

You, me and the rest of this universe would be one. But it is not one like a shorted connection. We know it had to start in a uniformity state and then condensed into real matter. This division of space is the very reason we all exist. Matter is so small that it is even divided into smaller units. As far as we can detect this will go on forever. There is no smallest division of matter and it is a pointless route to go.

Even though lets do a thought experiment. I live on a planet. From my scale it looks HUGE. I got so much room that I could not walk across it in 60 days travel by foot. But now lets look at where this planet resides. It is in a ball of force that extends from the Suns point. This is an electric field and not a magnetic. It also connects all the planets in my solar system to each other and to a certain extent to the rest of the universe. But lets now look closer at what makes up this planet. Each time we zoom in to see particles they divide into cell like components. the more we change our scale of view or magnification the more it looks like that matter is divided by huge vast spaces. And we start to see grouped atoms. Now at this point we must use an electron microscope. It uses "Electrons" to sonar what is there and the resulting reflections of electrons is detected and interpreted by a computer. It builds a surface view only of what the electrons bounced off of. It does not show you inside of the atom only the surface that the electron bounced off of. My best guess is that this surface is "Electron" shells of the atoms. We do not see the material of the atom only the reflection of the shell around the atom. Se we are blind to what is inside of the atom.
Now lets go the other way. We use a telescope to change our scale of view. We start to see the planets and solar system we have around us. We focus more and we start to see other points of light. Those points are other galaxies in our Universe. And we started recording the positions and strengths of each point. To this day we have a very extensive database on all those points and we know through computer simulations that we can accurately simulate where they would be in a model. We change our scale of view to the max. Including all the lights in the universe and this is what we get:

http://www.sustnrs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/big-history_universe.jpg

This is a process of matter and energy flows condensing over time. Before this universe had division this simulation would be all uniform with one haze. The electric field is everywhere and this is due to potential differences of those points once condensing occurs. Once flows start in this field they condense further and currents flow. Once currents flow the magnetic field gets involved and the condensing becomes strengthened locally. All the while every piece of matter is radiating into the space around it. Radiating both voltage field and subsequent magnetic field.

Going back to the analogy we are in matter that is bigger then you can imagine. Just like an atom is in a bigger than countability of macro matter. As the picture suggests we need more information to determine what matter we are in. What is it's purpose and what is our role in this or even if we have a role in this. From my viewpoint currently I suggest we are merely a parasite to this matter. We consume huge quantities of energy and return very little to the whole. We are a virus and maybe just maybe we can transition to a living, breathing, entity that can contribute to the wholes well being. But most of our society thinks WE are the top of the food chain. This is because we have limited our viewpoint. This blinds us to the wonders outside of that viewpoint. When some go outside of that viewpoint most berate, scoff and bang on the holy book that we call science laws. They beat this into our heads from day one, "Do as we say not how it actually is!".

[Jeg]

Thread on fire again and full of inspiration! I also believe that without theory no progress...unfortunately

Jbigness what is your opinion please on the nature of current and its relation to voltage? What do you say about the Don Smith's electron doublets the one being the voltage and the other the current? What about Leedskalnin that describes a universe with only magnetic characteristics and again a two particle base?

Google thanks for the interest, until tomorrow I will post anything you need if you like to play around this setup. I attach the one of my two collectors to take an idea. The wire inside is insulated and thick enough. The charges are not as much like at the top of a Tesla secondary, but there are enough to zap you until burn your finger. I have to read my notes but I remember that worked well just with a mosfet and an air transformer. The hv secondary is connected between two separate grounds through two spark gaps. The collector was between the negative peak and the one ground. At first I was firing this with a hv dc cap. The effect was the same but a little lesser because the static gap does not stop conducting abruptly like mosfet does. And of course confirmed that the higher the voltage and/or the frequency, the stronger the effect.

Dear Dave, very nice to meet you. Magnetic currents of Leedskalnin is my bible. I have read it at least six times and every time I see something new! What you say about the earth-charge pumping by present a positive lead of a capacitor to the ground is logical but I think that something is missing. Don smith says that his doublets are both negative, but voltage is more negative. If we take this as valid, then it is better the diode's anode to be grounded as we want to collect current and not voltage. And even better, a hv negative peak in the ground perhaps will be more effective as we create a lower potential than the ground, and as we know the current flows from high potential to the lower... gosh I think I have missed that hmm I will test it soon!