ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[wattsup]

@sm0ky2

I think the tokey smokey was a little too much.

First off, there is no spark gap in the ozone patent except on the secondary to produce the arcs that fracture air into ozone.

Also, the fan motor commutator is not a slip ring. There are no slip rings in the patent.

How I described the  function is how it works. No one will find a better function mode and saying the capacitor charges is wrong. There is no capacitor charge. The capacitor is always connected in series with the fan motor so it cannot charge and notice there is no diode anyways to hold a charge let alone have it discharge and that's one of the reasons the capacitor can be small. The rotary switch when closed can only rebias the primary from it's original biasing but always on the positive side of the potential. No negative potential ever reaches the primary SO THE SOURCE BATTERY OR OTHER CANNOT SEE IT AS POWER CONSUMPTION.

The elegance of this is very simple and could basically be summarized by the saying "Expend a little energy to run a fan motor and produce ozone in series for free". If Tesla said it this way then, he probably would never have gotten his patent.

@Magluvin

You make a good point about the source voltage levels but that does not change anything in the function besides the primary to secondary turn ratios because your main target is to reach a level high enough to produce ozone.

When Tesla says a small capacitor can be used in this system, that's because the primary has practically no inductance so very little effort is required to change the potential over the primary. You do not need a capacitor discharging and the capacitor in any case cannot hold a charge because it is always in series with the fan motor.

When the rotary switch closes, the feed source does not fall to zero volts because of the inductance in the fan motor does not present a true short condition. Also when it is closed the positive cannot short on itself from the positive of the capacitor. BUT THE RAPID CHANGE IN THE "DIRECTION" OF THE POSITIVE POTENTIAL IS WHAT IS CREATING THE CHANGE THE SECONDARY NEEDS TO PRODUCE OUTPUT. LIKE I SAID THE SECONDARY DOES NOT CARE ABOUT HOW THE CHANGE OCCURRED, ONLY THAT THERE IS CHANGE AND IT HAS THE ABILITY TO TRANSLATE THAT SINGLE POTENTIAL CHANGE INTO A DUAL POTENTIAL OUTPUT SIMPLY BECAUSE OF ITS OWN TOPOLOGY.

When the rotary switch then opens, you do not even have flyback because the change only occurred on the positive side of the potential and again the fan motor is always connected, never disconnected from the main series line.

Man oh man, don't know why this is so complicated. Tesla is a genius. He made a fan motor that can run the ozone part for free. What else do you want? He just mechanically simulated a single polarity H-bridge.

Maybe in a few years when all this sinks in, some will catch on but for now guys will just keep crackin the egg.

If anyone has a better function mode then put it up in a logical manner and I will come back and ask you questions on how your logic is possible or not. But your explanation has to be methodical otherwise things get mired up in misunderstandings and heads start to swell and blow up.

So to start to get your brains going remove the primary and the rotary switch from the patent and tell me if the fan motor will rotate or not when the feed supply is connected. Yes or No?

wattsup

PS: Some have caught on but many have not.

[shylo]

I think it's just about bouncing the input against  Lenz ( the reverse).
There will always be a spot , where you have to input, to keep it going.
The motor coils send a spike back at the supply, and if the interuptor is closed at the time ,to the rest of the circuit.
The spike is not enough.It helps.
Just trying to incorporate it all together.
artv

[wattsup]

@shylo

There cannot be a spike sent back because the fan motor commutators are using overlapped brushes which means there is never a period where nothing is connected and being overlapped means before it leaves one segment it is already in the next segment. Take any dc motor and scope it. No spikes. Inductors only spike or discharge when they are disconnected and in this patent the fan motor, weather the rotary switch is closed or not, is always connected.

Over my 35 year stink as a water treatment professional I have worked with ozone generators producing up to 20 pounds per day. This Tesla ozone generator will probably produce a few grams a day. There is no need for intense activity, high capacitor discharges, etc. All you need is the right primary to secondary ratio, the right arc distance, the right air flow of hopefully dry air and a convenient way of running. The genius in this is how he did it over 100 years ago and how he is using an already running fan motor to excite the ozone production end and in my view, the ozone end is running for free. This patent flies in the face of Standard EE while guys are trying to explain how it works with Standard EE. It's like force feeding a hummingbird.

wattsup

[shylo]

Wattsup you said, "there is never a period where nothing is connected"
In line 80 of the patent Tesla say's the current that passes through the motor is periodically interrupted.
I don't  think Tesla used commutators that overlapped, is there any proof he did?
artv

[Jeg]

Hi guys, Erfinder

I'd like to ask, if the phase difference between current and voltage inside the "in series" circuit is one of the key points. It is something that hasn't been discussed yet and can make a whole lot of difference in predicting circuit's behavior.

Regards