ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[Magluvin]

Yeah sorry about the pms.  I didnt make the multi person pm list, MH did.  I only replied to him a couple times there and I know that he wants that fight to continue, so he has something to do with himself. He does this once every month or 2 to get his nickers wet.  Everything is all nice and quiet and he does this and makes a list of the recipients to bother with his same rants he used many times before to do the same. I dont start these things with him. He just pops up and does it when he feels the need. Nuff said


Mags

When I had gotten the pm from MH, I didnt even read through the whole thing and just assumed he was aiming at me with it and i made a bad call on my reply back at him that was not called for in the least. Didnt get it till just some min ago that the first pm wasnt aimed at me. So what I aslo said above was not called for either. My mistake. I apologize for all that.   

mags

[wattsup]

@Magluvin

Forget @MH.

OK, think of the battery as a judge in a boxing match. All the two boxers want to do is get to the ring and fight it out with each other. The ring in all our circuits is the center point of highest inductance.

If the HIC was the only thing connected to the battery, the ring would be HIC dead center with both boxers fighting it out until the ring cannot hold and boom, you just blew an HIC. Bay boy. hahaha

Now put the capacitor on the negative boxers side. Now he has to pass that to get to the ring at the center of the HIC while all the positive boxer has to do is wait for him there and while he does that he passes the halfway mark just a little. So the fight will be slightly more on the negative boxers half of the HIC. The more you add things that the negative boxer has to pass before it gets to the HIC ring, the more the fight will occur on that side of the HIC.

So, if you measured the inductance of the HIC, you take half that and the positive boxer advances halfway into the HIC to that point. Then you measure the inductance of the negative circuit and take that divided by the inductance of half the HIC as a percent and that (or near that) is how much off center the fight will occur on the negative side. If you added more stuff on the positive side as well, the HIC center will go slightly back towards the positive side.

I sure as hell hope some catch this because it ain't in the books..

Ok, is a battery a balanced or imbalanced energy source? It's balanced with a positive potential and a negative potential. Why do we call them potentials? How can a battery negative be a potential when all it does is let's the positive flow back into it? Such farfelutin ideas of electron travel are the reason you have to believe in battery directionality. Again, Tesla had no diodes. He did not even have that in his mind to think about or be constricted by. He just used both polarities.

I know we all have learned otherwise but that otherwise is wrongo man. Our EE explanations are only formula based without any real logic for the OUer. Sorry for ranting.

OK, so the boxers know that whenever the fight starts they have to get to the center point of the HIC. What we do is use only half the motion because we only see things going one way. It does not. 

So add more on the negative side that's switched in and out of the circuit and the strongest line of that potential will still want to go the the HIC ring and fight it out. Tesla uses this polarity eagerness to his advantage. This eagerness is due to the copper atom nucleus' ability to convey potential by nucleic mimicking via the Six S's. Stay, Show, Sway, Swing, Spin and Shoot. That is explained in the docs I mentioned on a previous post.

Example B: Now, let's say the HIC is only connected to the positive boxer and nothing else. Ahhh. Now that boxer passes the HIC and gets to the other end right to the tip of that wire yelling to the negative boxer "Hey you chicken or what? Come on let's get this fight going". The negative wire hates being called chicken. He grabs on the wire and starts fighting the positive pushing it all the way back into the center of the HIC. That's why an already connected boxer has an advantage since it claims all of the HIC first so the switched boxer always has to fight its way to the HIC center ring by reclaiming its half of the HIC. That will always happen when one side is already connected. That is the crunch of Half Coil Syndrome.

We basically took the bi-force of a battery and only used one force. Then we diode the hell out of it and all that's left for the negative is to be considered a potential dumping ground.

Maybe read my previous post again.

OK, now replace the boxer that moves in the wire with a zillion boxer nuclei, one inside each copper atom of the wires or conductors. So in example B, imagine all the atoms on that big fat negative battery terminal are ready to fight and you approach the positive boxers who have all conveyed through the HIC to the tip of that connection wire that will touch that negative terminal. Now you have millions of positive boxers yelling to the negative boxers "Are you all chicken or what? Come on let's get this fight going". You guessed it. The negative boxers hate being called chicken so they connect and they start conveying and pushing back and conveying more and pushing and conveying more and pushing back the positive boxers to the HIC center ring where if left to their own devises, will fight till the ruining end. 

Could post more if you want. There is so much more. You guys think we know it all. We know nothing more then following stringent construct rules full of holes.

So now let's go through the Ignitor patent.

Two boxing clans, we know them as the infamous N's and P's. The P conveys to the center of the HIC and just waits bored to the hilt. The N conveys to this tee, then left to an open switch and also straight up to a multi-parallel dielectric conductor where it conveys through it then another tee, then left conveying to the primary of the ignitor coil then to the other side of the open switch, it also turns right towards what it really wants and that is to fight it out in the HIC center ring. But right now only those N's after the capacitor who received a conveyance are battling it out in the HIC and not at the center because the N is now lacking in boxers. So the primary sees one conveyance of the N potential after the capacitor that stopped at the open switch. Since that switch is open, the majority of the N boxers are waiting impatiently to advance their conveyance from their side so for now they cannot get to the HIC in full force like the P's did on the outset, so the primary is only N bias conveyed from left to right.

Now the switch is closed, the main N clan on the right can now convey first against the N's that were biasing the primary from the switch side going to the tee where some main boxers will convey down into the capacitor from the top while the majority start the real fight now at or near the HIC center.

So this means what? It means the N or the P can convey to a primary from either side and create change in the primary. You can soft bias a coil or hard bias a coil from either side and with either polarity.

So in this patent Tesla used positive as a stable focal point held at the ring of the HIC. Then he controlled the negative to change directions through the primary as they headed to the same focal point for the fight. In the ozone patent he used the negative side as the focal point and switched the positive but in a slightly different manner as explained previously.

So the switch? If the switch is fast enough to turn off just when the main N conveyance passes the primary, it will do its full effect for Primary change while not hitting the HIC full tilt to overly tire out the boxers. That would be where the control should look.

Anyone doing this should consider an HIC with a center tap for scoping.

Also, you will find that all measurements you do will follow this logic. The same efficiency test could be done with only the cap and HIC running then with the ignitor portion added. Do not use anything inline with the circuit as amperage measurements. Use a clamp on ammeter to follow the number of boxers as they convey further in the lines.

Hope this is more understandable.

wattsup

[Magluvin]

Hey Watts

What is HIC?  I may be slow here,

Are you saying that the large inductor will not have much activity due to only so much current can go through the cap in one direction? if that is the case then we are missing something...

Lets say we are going to cut the grass with our igniter circuit on the mowers gas engine. And at the moment the engine is at rest and it just so happens that the points are closed and that points switch connects the primary across the cap. It will remain in that condition till we pull the rope tied around the flywheel. Now we connect the battery as shown, At this time the cap is not part of the circuit as far as the battery is concerned because the points are closed and the primary of the transformer is now electrically across the cap. So now the large inductor is basically across the battery, and the primary in series with the loop is of little effect to the large inductor taking on currents from the battery. The transformer primary across the cap at this time allows current from the battery to flow in the large inductor as freely as the large inductor allows, and it is building its field till it is max and max current is flowing in the large inductor. Now we pull the rope and the points now open, disconnecting the primary from across the cap and now the cap IS in the loop of the battery/large inductor. The inductor is all wound up and will collapse its field and charge the cap, yes through the battery as a discharging function in the battery. In the end the cap will be charged up to a higher voltage than the battery. And hopefully the points are ready to close again while the cap is still charged at this high voltage and discharge it across the primary. During the time the cap is across the primary, oscillating as an lc, the primary can also carry the dc component of the battery through the large inductor at the same time the primary and cap sing thus building the field in the large inductor once more and repeat.

If you would like I can set up the circuit on sim and present the code for you to see exactly what I just said.  The whole idea IS to get that high voltage charge in the cap for primary discharge and oscillate till the ringing dies down. Should be quick and high freq due to the very low inductance of the primary and possibly the spark load helping to kill the ring faster than no load.

The battery will accept and pass the currents of the large inductor to charge the cap to a higher voltage than the battery.

In a points ignition system there is a condenser across the points. That condenser is not just there to protect the points switch contacts. The condenser becomes part of an LC with the primary of the spark coil.  If you have a coil laying around, try applying just 12v + and - of a battery across the coils + and - input. Then disconnect for the field collapse to induce the HV in the secondary for spark production. You will only see a short distance spark possibly lees than a1/4in and about as harmless as a quartz sparker in some cigarette lighters instead of flint and wheel. Just 1 single weak pip spark.  Now do the same with the condenser across where the switch opens. Now your spark will be way more intense and longer lasting due to the LC oscillation.

Now when we look at the points with condenser circuit closely, the oscillation of the LC cap and primary, has the cars battery in the loop. If the cap is across the closed switch, the same switch that connects and disconnects the - side of the coil to gnd, we can trace the currents all the way through the battery as part of the loop.  The battery + is always on the + side of the coil input and the points only connect and disconnect the - side of the coil to ground.

Its a strange arrangement through the battery, but is works fine. Today with electronic ignition advances i dont believe this action goes through the battery any longer.  The noise in the cars electrical system would be a hazard to the plethora of computers and electronic devices of todays vehicles.

Mags

[Magluvin]

Also, I look at circuits as electron flow from the - of the battery/source, through the circuit/load and back to the + of the battery. Maybe you are going by another idea of how things work. Seems like you see + charges going one way in a circuit while neg charges flow in the opposite direction simultaneously.  I think, from reading your posts here.  Is that the case?

Mags

[wattsup]

@Magluvin

In my Reply #8215 I mention it - high inductance coil (HIC).

Look, take a 12vdc battery and two wires of three feet long. Put one wire end on each of the battery terminals leaving the two other ends open. Put your volt meter on those two open ends. What do you see? If the positive of the meter is on the positive of the battery, you will see +12vdc. If the positive of the meter is on the negative of the battery you will see -12vdc. So whatever information was at the battery terminals is now at the end of each of those wires. Both the positive and the negative potential of the battery had to advance into the wires for your meter to read that. Both potentials advance in the circuit. I covered that a few posts ago.

Now connect the two wires together. Where do you think the wires will blow, at the ends or in the center where they meet? Well 9 times out of ten they will blow in the center. So why should it blow in the center if the battery is supposed to work from as you say negative to positive and as others say positive to negative? What is so different about the current flow as you say before it arrives at the wire center, at the wire center and after it leaves the wire center? There is no difference because this is impossible? If the electricity in the battery was flowing in a circle back to source, then the wire should always blow at the point where the current goes back into the battery but it does not. That is because both polarities exit the battery.

OK another example. A 12 volts battery has 6 x 2 volts cells. Right or wrong? Right. Each cell has a P and an N side. Right or wrong. Right. So if each cell has both N and P how is it that when you put six together, you get this 12 volt N and P reading? What? Do they add up and how is that possible that they add up if when you go through each of those 6 cells together. No way that can be possible. The battery cell has an N and a P because it is finite and needs to delimit itself. But that one cell can also be either full N or P so when you put two cells together, one is N and one is P and when you read across you still see the polarities and 4 volts. Put three cells together and 1 1/2 will be N and 1 1/2 cell will be P. Put six cells together and you now have  3 N and 3 P. You measure the voltage on the battery and see 12 volts and think one terminal is zero and the other terminal is 12 volts, but you forget that the volt meter only measures potential difference, just like if you put 5 x 12vdc batteries in series and measured between the 3rd and 4th, you will again see 12vdc even though your meter probes are at the 36 and 48 volts marks you will still see 12 volts. The same with the battery, half of those cells are now completely N and the other half are now completely P so in reality the voltage is -6 vdc to +6 vdc and your meter sees it as 12. You have a -6 leaving the N and a plus 6 leaving the P and heading for the bulb with an additive force of 12 vdc.

Look even if both polarities exit the battery and even though our present science thinks one polarity exits to then enters back into the battery from the other polarity, this does not change the truth of the battery exiting both polarities and it does not change how we have gone about exploiting only one facet of the battery. Tesla used both polarities in his patents advancing into the circuit.

You have a dc bulb on a battery. In your view then how is it that the negative can enter the bulb, glow like a star creating this quasi fusion state in that filament, then redress itself to enter the output of the bulb to then return safe and sound to the battery source? That is impossible in any other natural state of things. As soon as the bulb was so hot and bright it should have lost all information from the negative and had nothing left to return to the positive side of the battery, so THERE CANNOT BE A FLOW OF ANYTHING. But we are taught to see an illusion while the reality and logic is glowing right in front of us. Would it not be more logical to say that the bulb received both a positive and a negative potential, advancing into the filament and lighting it up. This in reality is the only logical answer. But we see it in one direction.

I'll have to digest the rest of your post but most of those answers are in my last few posts. Look this is a new concept for you guys were I have had years now to prepare it and believe me, there is no room for error in it because it explains all our effects to perfection without any exceptions and inconsistencies. This requires that you re-read and re-read and all of a sudden something will click. Basically the electron and the field are imposters. They are the source of all our misconceptions about electricity and how it works in a natural way, the way that will lead to OU. If our first scientists and physicists were ordered to provide only half the truth of electricity because they knew that if we knew the truth, we would start developing new ways to pulse our coils like Tesla wanted to do with Wardencliff, then teaching us only half the truth was their way to keep us mentally chained up. We still advanced or increased our complexity but we still pay for the losses and this loss is very profitable for some. You just have to wake up and get ready for the changes that will occur when the first OU device hits the market, it will change our present constructs so just get ready because for some it will be one hell of a shock to learn we have spent all our lives on this monolithic view of energy.

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