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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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WhatIsIt

OK,

But it is good way to keep you talking,
I needed you to post so I can analyze it.

Are you sure that you dont know Chris?

triangle

Quote from: WhatIsIt on July 26, 2020, 04:30:46 PM
OK,

But it is good way to keep you talking,
I needed you to post so I can analyze it.

Are you sure that you dont know Chris?

Good luck with that my child!

onepower

Triangle
QuoteI dont mind your taughts what is and what not.
So please dont change the subject.
Please share ereference what you have done for the world!
This forum is a discussion forum and open source.
Let us not go off Topic.

Off topic... I was not aware that any here were ever on it?.

One could conclude, given the narrative, that the "topic" would seem to be the last thing on anyone's mind. However it begs the question, if anyone was on topic and sharing real knowledge concerning FE then I suspect some progress would be made however none would seem to be present. Thus in my opinion the true motive by some must be to inhibit progress and turn everything into a proverbial pissing contest, if you will. Not that I do not find all this entertaining in the same way I find a dog shitting on a carpet somewhat entertaining... so long as the carpet is not mine.

Behold the spectacle, the Colosseum, where primates pummel and bloody there own kind in sport for the crowd. All hail the crowd, all hail the mob, for there is righteousness in numbers...

Regards








lancaIV

Quote from: lancaIV on July 21, 2020, 04:51:57 AM
                                               How to treat theoretical defined terms and numbers !?



Force,Energy,Power
Here in internal combustion engine/electric drive comparison



When 136 ic hp are equivalent 12,5 KW electric motor

http://www.evalbum.com/motor
Gas engines are rated at their peak hp, electric motors are rated at their continuous hp. The peak hp of an electric motor is usually 8 to 10 times its continuous rating.





and instead a. railway car 100 to 140 ic hp George Constantinescu changed to 10 ic hp + torque converter/ amplifier

                 b. street car 45 hp to 10 hp + torque converter/amplifier

                  a "peoples car " or in German : VOLKSWAGEN
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Constantinescu
http://www.rexresearch.com/constantinesco2/constantinesco.htm
http://www.rexresearch.com/constran/1constran.htm


His idea was to produce a low cost one hundred guinea "peoples' car'' which would travel 100 miles on one gallon of petrol at the most commonly used road speeds of 30 to 40 miles per hour.


George first successfully tested a Torque Converter in a car in May l 923, using an experimental model that had been built only for bench tests. He obtained an old Sheffield Simplex chassis and replaced the big 45 hp engine with a 10 hp "light car'' Singer engine, and built a platform on the chassis. This car was driven around the outskirts of London loaded with 10 people, including the inventor at the wheel, fig.  21, and later towed a lorry up a steep hill. As a further demonstration of the capabilities of the car, six inch wooden blocks were placed in front of the wheels. When the accelerator was depressed the car climbed over the blocks smoothly and without hesitation, to the astonishment of the bystanders. This test was merely to demonstrate the possibilities of the Torque Converter, because even a 10 hp engine was much larger than necessary for the production car envisaged.

                           http://www.rexresearch.com/constran/fig25.jpg


                                                     http://www.rexresearch.com/constran/fig26.jpg


Testing, development and manufacture was carried out at the former Malaxa Ironworks of Bucharest during the 1930s. Initially, successful tests were carried out with a 10 hp engine and converter mounted in a 10 tonne railcar. These results were very encouraging considering that similar cars in other countries were using 100 to 140 hp engines. The next stage was the establishment of production lines and special machine tools for the building of 30 tonne passenger railcars with 60 seats. These were propelled by two engines of 20 hp each mounted under the chassis. These railcars ran without trouble at about 40 mph, a performance which appeared to be quite suitable for conditions in Romania at the time. Looking to the future more power and faster speeds would be required on main lines as well as branch lines to meet the needs of rapidly growing industry and infrastructure in all countries. Bearing this in mind, George made a survey of requirements and solutions proposed in several other countries, including Germany, Britain and the United States.




                             how many rated KW need the electric motor coupled with the G.C. torque converter/amplifier ?

                                                       a.         ( 10 hp/136 hp) x 12,5 KW : ?


                                                       b.         ( 10 hp/ 45 hp) x 12,5 KW  : ?




                                            LESS THAN a. 1 KW ELECTRIC MOTOR and


                                                             b. 2,8 KW ELECTRIC MOTOR  ! 


                                                                ( by pure calculation !)



                          The electric consume by high permanent magnets torque motor ?

An example : 2,8 KW nominal / 0,7 ( for 70% electro magnet motor efficiency) ~ 4 KWh consume per hour



4 KWh x 0,3 ( Ogino Sanshiro basic factor electric/permanent magnet motor 70% savings) ~ 1,2 KWh per hour

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=2002175580A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20021128&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


[0059] As a result of comparison between the structure according to the present invention and the structure as a comparison example comprising the electromagnet element 17 and the attraction member 57 without the provision of the permanent magnet element 19, it has been found that the electrical energy (W) required for the structure of the present invention is less than one-third through one-fourth of that which is required for the comparison example having no permanent magnet element 19 when the attractive force of each of the working surfaces is the same between the two.


[0060] Further, when we suppose a reluctance motor to which the structure of the above-described comparison example is applied, the energy conversion efficiency thereof will be about 30%. However, if a reluctance motor utilizing the structure of the present invention requires an electrical energy of less than 30% as compared to the structure of the comparison example, an output exceeding the electrical input can be estimated and this fact shows that the energy of the permanent magnet element is being converted into a dynamic energy corresponding thereto.




           https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X58oEF1dBqg       https://web.archive.org/web/20090925065936/http://www.loremo.com/

When the Loremo concept car was calculated with a 20 hp ic engine ( eco version ),how many electric motor KWs will be need with G.C. torque converter coupling ?

When 45 hp ic engine was changed to 10 hp ic engine  then 20 hp would become changed to 4,5 hp ic engine !
       4,5 hp ic engine equates ? KW permanent magnet torque electric motor ?

     When we take the austinev.org comparison
    peak to peak 136 hp ic ~ 12,5 KW electric

     (4,5 hp /136 hp ) x 12,5 KW
      ~       0,42 KW Loremo electric drive + G.C. torque converter / amplifier

    When we see the Loremo we see the VW XL1 and the Amory Lovins HYPERCAR



                                                      https://youtu.be/ZiA4cpJb0uw


                                                            0:56  " ..... only 0,3% ..... "



             when 6 liter gasoline per 100 Kilometers  equates   60 000 Wh then represents 0,3% : 180 Wh per 100 Kilometers

             easy to renew the portable power storage during the drive : brake recuperation ,solar,......



    20 hp ic were from these " bestsellers" the engines their power : Morris Mini,2CV,Fiat 500


  Car drive energy renewable  source :

With 45% efficiency 1 sqm photo-thermo voltaic energy  conversion gives by full sunshine 600 Wh !
Reference : Sono- motor and Novasolix
https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2018/11/23/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-a-90-efficient-solar-panel/


              Force,Power,Energy : N.Tesla and Toribio Bellocq and George Constantinescu : sonic energy








In the 24/365 cities and their suburbs street and highways controled  future the "autonomous car,driver-free" does not need more rated power ,the G.Constantinescu car concept average street velocity equates nearly 100% the german traffic driver average velocity : 56 Km-h or 35 (land) miles per hour

His idea ( G.C.)was to produce a low cost one hundred guinea "peoples' car'' which would travel 100 miles on one gallon of petrol at the most commonly used road speeds of 30 to 40 miles per hour.

Average car velocity in german innercities :      +- 11 up to 14 miles per hour !
https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/994676/umfrage/innerstaedtische-durchschnittsgeschwindigkeit-im-autoverkehr-in-deutschen-staedten/

https://www.adac.de/_mmm/pdf/statistik_mobilitaet_in_deutschland_0111_46603.pdf


page 11  : 42,2 Km per hour car "fast" velocity ! 26,2 mph !


Probably taking an old "Lotus Elise" https://auto.howstuffworks.com/lotus-elise3.htm  ,
like Tesla Motor Inc. did : Lotus Elise chassis = Tesla Roadster chassis,
taking away the conventional engine parts and introduce the 5 KW permanent magnet motor and G.C. torque converter




Comparison : G.Constantinescu electric motor + torque converter with


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1

instead 50 hp engine         Porquer  differential + 4 x 500 W electric motors

                                        G.Constantinesu  (10/45) x 50 = 11,2 hp ic engine + torque converter


                                                                  (11,2/8) ic to electric = 1,4 KW electric motor + torque converter






BTW: Jesus has a plan ? Yes,clearly !

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Jorge_Jesus.jpg
After Flamengo de Rio de Janeiro he will be the new coach from Benfica Lisbon ! ::) ;) ;D


Both sites have :
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Cristo_Redentor_-_Rio_de_Janeiro%2C_Brasil.jpg/1200px-Cristo_Redentor_-_Rio_de_Janeiro%2C_Brasil.jpg


https://lissabon.sehenswuerdigkeiten-online.de/sehenswuerdigkeiten/img/crisrei2m.jpg
1988 : Munich,M.A.N. Citybus 200 hp Diesel-gasoil - engine drive
            Magnet-Motor ,Starnberg ( an A.E.G. - subcompany) introduced a new drive concept :
           Electric flywheel + 20 hp gasoil-engine conversion

When an 136 hp internal combustion engine equates a 12,5 KW nominal electric motor drive :

           Electric flywheel + ? KW nominal electric motor drive ?

                                           ( 12,5/136) x 20 KW  gasoil engine ~ 1,84 KW e-motor ?
                                           Catalan electric drive,consume ?

Inventor : Kurt Fritzsche DE4332378
                 What has to be the nominal electric power rating for the gasoline engine change to electric ?

                 

When we work with "energy or power or work or force" numbers we have to differ between theoretical comparison
related Watt-peak and Watt-nominal and Watt-average !
Between "rotating KW" and " linear KW",between "DC KW and AC KW" !

When we study the suburban and innercity traffic velocities in Europe = ≤ 30 miles per hour and introduce the " autonomous = driver-free traffic" in future we can calculate with 1 KW nominal electric drive and 1 Wh per Kilometer electricity consume !
This easy recaptureable by solartect/or photovoltaic dots  coating , brake energy recuperation or in situ battery generator set !

The Tesla Motor car with 68 Wh per Kilometer consume actually far away from future standart !
The battery standart : Lithium(carbon)-Titan with 10000 recharge cycles for the future enough !
Optimization : to 500 Wh per Kg : AMPCERA

When the 4x 500 Watt electric motors gear drive from the french inventor Michel Porquer equates a 50 hp internal combustion engine car drive and the german low resistance car Loremo was planned with a 20 hp ic engine then
for an electric Loremo 20/50 = 0,4 the Porquer rating seems enough !

                          1 KW electric nominal power !

Jeg

Hi Tito
I hope you are fine :)

You have many times stated that a zener diode is necessary in your setups as for a control. I understand that we need it across the output capacitor to prevent it from overcharging. Do you find it a good idea to add a zener diode in series with the kicker coil's diode so to prevent any current flow from battery to the output capacitor?

Regards
Jeg