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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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seychelles

SO WATTS PER SECOND YEAH. AMPLIFICATION OF ENERGY IS POSSIBLE.
SO WHICH HAS MORE POWER A SINE WAVE OF 100 V RMS AT 1 AMP  AT 100HZ
OR A SINE WAVE OF 100V RMS AT 1 AMP AT 100KZ?

Floor

nix85 quote
"I guess this is a good place to remind energy of a wave (any wave) is amplitude squared, when you add two same waves together amplitude becomes double, guess what happens to energy. "
end of nix85 quote

the amplitude of wave 1 = 10
          therefore
the energy of wave 1 = 100

amplitude of wave 2 = 10
         therefore
energy of wave 2 = 100
       their sum is
100 + 100 = 200
                      But
combined constructively the  amplitude is now 20
     and the energy of a wave is its amplitude squared
                   20^2 = 400
                 Ah ha proof that there is now 4 x the energy not just 2 x
                              and that would be amazing, but....

     https://pressbooks.online.ucf.edu/algphysics/chapter/energy-in-waves-intensity/

The amount of energy in a wave is related to its amplitude. Large-amplitude earthquakes produce large ground displacements. Loud sounds have higher pressure amplitudes and come from larger-amplitude source vibrations than soft sounds. Large ocean breakers churn up the shore more than small ones. More quantitatively, a wave is a displacement that is resisted by a restoring force. The larger the displacement x, the larger the force F = kx needed to create it. Because work W is related to force multiplied by distance (Fx) and energy is put into the wave by the work done to create it, the energy in a wave is related to amplitude. In fact, a wave's energy is directly proportional to its amplitude squared because W ∝ Fx = kx2.
The energy effects of a wave depend on time as well as amplitude. For example, the longer deep-heat ultrasound is applied, the more energy it transfers. Waves can also be concentrated or spread out. Sunlight, for example, can be focused to burn wood. Earthquakes spread out, so they do less damage the farther they get from the source. In both cases, changing the area the waves cover has important effects. All these pertinent factors are included in the definition of intensity I as power per unit area: I=PA
, where P is the power carried by the wave through area A. The definition of intensity is valid for any energy in transit, including that carried by waves. The SI unit for intensity is watts per square meter (W/m2). For example, infrared and visible energy from the Sun impinge on Earth at an intensity of 1300 W/m2 just above the atmosphere. There are other intensity-related units in use, too. The most common is the decibel. For example, a 90 decibel sound level corresponds to an intensity of 10−3 W/m2. (This quantity is not much power per unit area considering that 90 decibels is a relatively high sound level. Decibels will be discussed in some detail in a later chapter.

We know from Chapter 16.10 Superposition and Interference that when two identical waves, which have equal amplitudes X, interfere perfectly constructively, the resulting wave has an amplitude of 2X. Because a wave's intensity is proportional to amplitude squared, the intensity of the resulting wave is four times as great as in the individual waves.

Figure 2. These stereo speakers produce both constructive interference and destructive interference in the room, a property common to the superposition of all types of waves. The shading is proportional to
The intensity of a wave is not the same as the total energy content of that wave.

Floor


intensity.
The intensity goes up by a factor of 4 when the amplitude doubles. This answer is a little disquieting. The two individual waves each have intensities of 1.00 W/m2, yet their sum has an intensity of 4.00 W/m2, which may appear to violate conservation of energy. This violation, of course, cannot happen. What does happen is intriguing. The area over which the intensity is 4.00 W/m2 is much less than the area covered by the two waves before they interfered. There are other areas where the intensity is zero. The addition of waves is not as simple as our first look in Superposition and Interference suggested. We actually get a pattern of both constructive interference and destructive interference whenever two waves are added. For example, if we have two stereo speakers putting out 1.00 W/m2 each, there will be places in the room where the intensity is 4.00 W/m2, other places where the intensity is zero, and others in between. Figure 2 shows what this interference might look like. We will pursue interference patterns elsewhere in this text.

Figure 2. These stereo speakers produce both constructive interference and destructive interference in the room, a property common to the superposition of all types of waves. The shading is proportional to intensity.

seychelles

is the magnetic field force 4 times in an opposing magnetic field?
HENCE MAGNETIC FORCE AMPLIFICATION.

Floor

@nix85

This is what I said in my first post to this topic
https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg560459/#msg560459

On the one hand you say 4 x energy is there simply because two waves combine constructively etcetera...  here  @  https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg560460/#msg560460

My second post was a continuation of my first post.
https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg560459/#msg560459

In a later post, you contradict your self  and say

"Everyone also understands we are not talking about that kind of amplification but amplification
of energy, creating a sink for the ambient energy which is perceived as overunity but is not much different than a solar panel or a wind generator just working with subtler energy forms."

This last one, in which you contradict your self, I can find some reason to agree with.
In fact it is similar to the last things I said in my second post.

again @  https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg560460/#msg560460