133 Liters HHO per minute ?

[Micha]

Yes it lookes like the one in the vid, but ist far smaller and they called it taxi cube ,
when i hopefuly get my car back tomorow i will make some better pics,
But let me tell something about the cell inside.
they have a controllrelay with open the process , needs 12 v and 2 amp maybe from ignition,so the cell never starts direkt from battery,
i messured in use 12 v and 16 amp ,and after a couple of  hours of use, the temperature was 70 deg celsius,and big production of gas (or steam, or what ever)
the cell in the vid is for lorrys, they told me, when I met the boss from company he showed me a us cell for lorrys ,they removed it from a scania lorry, he showed me the problem of all this cheap stainless stell cells , fe2O3 just after a short time of use, it seems that the eletrones make a diffusion oft the molybdän out of the steel, and in this mikro holes it starts rusting, thats why the water get the broun colour after a while.
In the Cube i have the water lookes like water after a month oft testing , the elektrolyte they use ( dont know what kind ,big secret) is added only one time and normaly never have to be substituded,
Ok the next thing is the automaticly refilling of destilled water out of tank,(only destilled water,anything else will destroy the elektodes,
they use the vacuum from the engine, there is a sensor which gives a signal when water is low to a valve ,the valve works only when enough vacuum is available.
When I first put the gas behind the air filter ,ther was not enough vacuum , the next place where just bevor the turbo, here perfect vacuum, cell works phantastic, but scheiße no effect, nothing at all,
The results with a very good tester shoed no changes in oxygen and lambda, with and with out cell, same results.
Constructing engineer of the cell told , of course no results ," you have to put the gas after the turbo"
With this information i have my little problems, becaus of my understanding how a turbo works , there cant be a vacuum , only high presure maybe 1,5 - 2.3 atm.
But he didnt agree ,he said there is vacuum, well he is in some ways right, when the engine works with about 2000 1/min the turbo doesnt , but anyway not enough vacuum that the deliver of new water in the cell works.
But at this point that was not the real problem, the bigger thing is that the whole stuff doesn`t work with a diesel, meanwhile Iam not shure if it works at all.!!
It makes me a little bit sad,
but does anybody here can be 100% sure that it works, i mean proved by them self,

The guy from cleanworldenergie told me that some cars doesnt work , nobody knows why, but the most of the do, what shall I believe,
He said that they sold a couple of Taxicube to a company in Slowakia here is the link
http://www.4cleanenergy.net/
language only german and slowakia
they also talking about gas after turbo, but there is nothing about elektronical problem,
they are using the new type of the cell which seperate the HO and O in two Teflontubes, see the pictures, i will contact this people and maybe they have a solution for my car, but I dont think so,
and sorry for my bad english ,
Ciao
Micha

[TheNOP]

Good information. Many people install hydrogen cells at the same time they install the oxygen sensor modification to reduce fuel flow rate and then they give all the credit to the hydrogen cell. They believe what they want to see.

The hydrogen is so diluted that even 50 LPM is not going to improve efficiency unless it is injected into the cylinder only on the firing cycle.

If they do not install the O2 sensor modification, the increased oxygen going to the sensor makes the computer add MORE gas to the engine.

The best way to modify the engine is adding a potentiometer the mass air flow sensor and making the adjustment there.

increase of oxygen ?

that sensor is at the exaust, no ?
how will it be sensing more oxygen ?
could it be an urban myth ?


in my opignon, no modification are require if that sensor is truly sensing oxygen.

in faq, you should get less oxygen in the exaust after the combustion if you replace the air with hydrogen.
the hydrogen will take the air volume that was needed for the fuel to burn correctly.

the car computer should ajust the fuel needed itself, and run leaner after a few days.
it will cut the fuel ratio untill it sense oxygen again, then re-ajust up/down from there.


please tell me so if i am wrong, or if O2 sensor are sensing oxygen at all.

[CrazyEwok]

As i understand it the O2 sensor works on trying to keep the oxygen levels at the exhaust at a point so that the emmissions levels are "acceptabe". This works in conjunction with a few other sensors at the inlet side of your air flow. BUT what they do is deliver the max amount of bang per cycle for your engine while maintaining the O2 levels on the output. you increase the O2 going in and the car will effectively make use of the extra. The cars computer has logged what it counts as "average" operating enviroment. so if you hook this up and reset the computer you tend to get better results with less modifacation.
on that note though i have seen 2 types of ways the onboard computers use the O2 sensor.
1.Percentage Abusers: These ones look at O2 in and O2 out and use up a percentage of it with fuel release. eg O2 in level = 100% O2 out must = 60% or higher (please note it is an example for example purposes)

2. Set level - these ones work on O2 out must be between X amount of PPM and Y amounts of PPM. and if there is more O2 detected they increase fuel and if there is less it decreses.

Both have problems and bonuses but electrolyzers tend to intergrate better if you reset all of your computers stored data this makes it run a little rough to start with but it will be better long term, IMO

[passion1]

Micha

Thank you for the detailed reply. I'm looking forward to the pictures!
Can you confirm what metal is being used for the electrodes, stainless steel, Magnesium, Aluminium?

[Dave45]

Havent tried it but degas your water then run the water in place of diesel through the high presser pump 26000 psi, cool the water to 4 degrees C place electrodes just before it inters the fuel rail.
Now how to create a spark inside the diesel cylinder