My Current Build

[BAHammer]

  Alan,
What it comes down to is maybe I'd prefer to do things the way I know how to do them.
Yet you have a lot of people that say I should follow your lead.
I don't care to do blind builds. And by discussing things, maybe somebody like helmut will give me some good advice.
After all, when he told me what I was doing at one time didn't look like a Bessler wheel, I started thinking how I could do something that did look like a Bessler wheel.
And now, people can see my designs conform more to what Bessler drew.

[AB Hammer]

  Alan,
What it comes down to is maybe I'd prefer to do things the way I know how to do them.
Yet you have a lot of people that say I should follow your lead.
I don't care to do blind builds. And by discussing things, maybe somebody like helmut will give me some good advice.
After all, when he told me what I was doing at one time didn't look like a Bessler wheel, I started thinking how I could do something that did look like a Bessler wheel.
And now, people can see my designs conform more to what Bessler drew.

Jim

I do believe it is time to call a truce then. 

I am a stickler on credit. If some one else get a wheel before me I will congratulate them (then I will try to build a stronger wheel, not of there design). If I had a hand in inspiration I hope to be noted. If I build for someone else and it runs the wheel design is theirs, I get credit as the physical builder, not the designer. If I give advice of change, I hope the person will recognize me for my part in it. If  I am building and a design goes into alterations of my design that produces a running wheel, then some form of partnership will be expected. I have a few partners in this game and friends as well that if I am the one with my own design. Those I truly deal with will have a part. But I won't open source but after patent pending status I will show how I did it for the do it your self builders. I don't want to just give it away, where big business will just take it.

The wheel is bigger than all of us. So to be greedy is a waste of time, but to protect ones credit in it, is a part of there's, ours, or my life. IMHO

[BAHammer]

Jim

I do believe it is time to call a truce then. 

I am a stickler on credit. If some one else get a wheel before me I will congratulate them (then I will try to build a stronger wheel, not of there design). If I had a hand in inspiration I hope to be noted. If I build for someone else and it runs the wheel design is theirs, I get credit as the physical builder, not the designer. If I give advice of change, I hope the person will recognize me for my part in it. If  I am building and a design goes into alterations of my design that produces a running wheel, then some form of partnership will be expected. I have a few partners in this game and friends as well that if I am the one with my own design. Those I truly deal with will have a part. But I won't open source but after patent pending status I will show how I did it for the do it your self builders. I don't want to just give it away, where big business will just take it.

The wheel is bigger than all of us. So to be greedy is a waste of time, but to protect ones credit in it, is a part of there's, ours, or my life. IMHO

  Alan,
As far as I am concerned, you have a Messiah complex. As your followers have said, I have to follow your advice. Even if it's off topic.
Considering I've spent over a year working on a principle, I don't exactly expect other people to understand it as well as I do. But I think I am done with this.
After all, this latest episode started because you said the law needs to be enforced in the forum.
I think your friends should think about that. I was minding my own business.

[AB Hammer]

  Alan,
As far as I am concerned, you have a Messiah complex. As your followers have said, I have to follow your advice. Even if it's off topic.
Considering I've spent over a year working on a principle, I don't exactly expect other people to understand it as well as I do. But I think I am done with this.
After all, this latest episode started because you said the law needs to be enforced in the forum.
I think your friends should think about that. I was minding my own business.

Jim
I have offered you an olive branch, and stated my standing position. Now you are going to slap me whit it?

This is the real Jim and his true hart, a post that he made to me on Bessler Quest .

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But Alan, if it is my design, it will be known.
Of course, I can always modify the post if I want. And I'm sure that if someone successfully built a model based on my research and I kept quiet, they would too.
This would be because I can edit my posts. And I could change the design I posted.
It's up to you and if your design is different than what I posted. If people think it is the same and you say it is different, you will lose.
Think about it and let me know.

And you says this about me after I tried to help?? And you call this minding your own business??

Re: My Current Build
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2009, 02:36:47 PM »


  @All,
And this from someone who said they were going to patent my self rolling wheel. Am I missing something ?

And now you say I have a Messiah complex. All of this crap is to cover your real intention. and lets not forget the pity play.

I am sick,  Help help I'm being repressed.

I knew you wouldn't take the olive branch, you would have to quit taking stabs of slander at me. So when this dog offered to stay on one side of the fence. You decided to through rocks at the dog. Well this dog won't stand for that.

@ all and Jim

The biggest joke is that Jim keeps saying his work and then keeps saying it is MT24 or MT25 or MT20. If it is these? Then you are playing with a designs that belongs to someone else and claiming them to be yours, Jim!!. I have studied the MTs and I make my own designs, not just slight changes, but different. I have shown several wheel designs here and they are not anything like the MTs in function. Originality is the best. Don't keep trying things that have failed time and time again.

@ all

What really makes me mad at Jim the most is Personal messages like this one he sent to me. I keep it as evidence. February 16, 2009, 05:28:35 PM

  Alan,
If you build anything based on my work, I will send an e-mail to WM2D and report this forum and besslerWheel.com. Many people are using pirated software.
I'm not worried about that, but they should not have allowed you to harass me.

Why is he trying to scar me to not build? And from this letter he is threatening everyone like holding everybody hostage if I do build. 

[broli]

Wow this sure has become a stinking thread.