My Current Build

[BAHammer]

Well lets see here
1st The toy in question that jim claims is his is the same one that Scott Hall showed. A peace of junk.

2nd Jim would say anything or do anything " IMO " to see what I am doing.

3rd the walking wheel that I did, didn't work as predicted perpetually,  but for other uses it went beyond expectation. So hell no! I won't show it yet.

4th I said my wheel looked promising not yours. Yours was another Scott Hall peace of junk. You also stated that you would backdate your post and take credit for my wheel. So of course I am not going to show it.

5th >>Get your own build and post it Alan. That is if you are legitimate. But making claims is something anyone can do. But i have yet to see post and pursue a build.<<

FDROLMAO I have posted several wheels and videos on youtube. Some where of my earlier post but they were low hits so I deleted them but there will be more to come. and if people want to see the earlier ones I will be glad to e-mail them to them.
My youtube sight.  http://www.youtube.com/user/ABthehammer

So Jim! any more BULL $#!+? Or you understand you have been making mistakes and swallow a little pride so things might get better.

  Alan,
Scott's wheel had 3 arms with no weight at the axle.
This picture is what you were building. An over balanced arm causes rotation and a weight in the center stores momentum to lift the weight moving towards top center the last 30 degrees.
According to trig, the arm at the level of the axle and moving downward 60 degrees should generate more force than what a weight moving 30 degrees up would need.
Not sure where you get off being nothing but a F^%$ing liar.
If it works it would be a neat trick, having a wheel roll over a weight once it is on the ground. Of course, I did say the over balance is 1/8th the radius, or 1/2 inch of over balance for every 4 inches of radius.
And that is why you slam me like Ralph does for using a different psuedonym on youtube. You did not know it was me who posted it to someone. And you got caught as a result.
Can it work ? Possibly. But as I have said before Alan, if you did get it to work and claim it as your own, people on youtube, including the person the design was given to might have said something. Somerthing like someone posted that idea and it wasn't you.
This is why I think that people like you and Ralph that do secret builds should not be allowed in here.
I've not seen you post a legitimate build. Putting one lever on a wheel is n0ot a build. That is something so basic it is meaningless. And you did say you have done 600 builds. You and Ralph both, what a laugh.
You sound like a clear case of being jealous Alan. I take the time to analyze what I am working on. This means I need toi work slower. Something that upsets you.
After all, when you tried saying I couldn't do something then being supportive of my current project was nothing but an attempt to emotionally control me. Sorry, that won't ever happen.
Read the 4th statement under abuse Alan. It doews fit your attitude towards me.
http://eqi.org/eabuse1.htm#What%20is%20Emotional%20Abuse?

[AB Hammer]

And this folks is why ideas need to be shared freely. All this fighting leads to nothing FOOLS!

So broli

If someone was stating false witness against you would not defend yourself? Who would be the bigger FOOL?
So simply if you have a for sure runner design and you show it, just think how many people will be out there saying MINE! MINE! MY IDEA!.  It will be bad enough when it is protected, and Jim's actions are just an example. IMO For some reason he has so called convinced himself, that I am doing a design/toy that he claims is his, which it is not, but if I show what I am doing even though it is not a runner either but it has other attributes that may get me a retirement. My retirement possibility in this one will become lost. It is no longer to do anything with perpetual motion so give it up Jim. People are so looking at the end goal, they miss so much in between that can be valuable as well.

[BAHammer]

And this folks is why ideas need to be shared freely. All this fighting leads to nothing FOOLS!

  broli,
It can be expected for Alan to be abusive towards me. Ralph was in Besslerwheel. He said I am an idiot because of my spelling and that my head injury or speaking English as a second language matter.
And Scott ellis supported that kind of attitude. I have no need to tolerate abuse.
If you notice, Alan said nothing about the Bessler design I posted. Why ?
It's a control issue. He wants to claim he mentored me. This is why he was jealous when i was discussing different things in the G-Force thread. He isn't familiar with science and was jealous when other peole were willing to discuss things with me that he couldn't be in control of.
That could be why Ralph was abusive towards me in bessler wheel. I was discussing things that they're not capable of. And they do promote the idea that they are accomplished builders.
This is engineering. And as such does take time to develop. Neither have the patience.
If they supported bessler, then they would be willing to discuss ideas that might lead to an understanding of how his wheels work.
Mt 25 will work. Ralph has said it won't in the thread he posted for you. It works on a similar principal as mt 24.
With mt 25, when the lever advances, it has a line going through the weight hanging from the fixed arm. This goes to a hoist mechanism that is geared between 2:1 and 3:1. This lefts the weight at the bottom.
This means that the weight that hangs from a fixed arm would be something like 5 lbs. and the weight on the lever 2 1/2 lbs. It would take some fine tuning of the math, but that is the basic idea.
Part of the problem could be the lack of belief that Bessler actually built a working wheel let alone 4 or more   

[AB Hammer]

  Alan,
Scott's wheel had 3 arms with no weight at the axle.
This picture is what you were building. An over balanced arm causes rotation and a weight in the center stores momentum to lift the weight moving towards top center the last 30 degrees.
According to trig, the arm at the level of the axle and moving downward 60 degrees should generate more force than what a weight moving 30 degrees up would need.
Not sure where you get off being nothing but a F^%$ing liar.
If it works it would be a neat trick, having a wheel roll over a weight once it is on the ground. Of course, I did say the over balance is 1/8th the radius, or 1/2 inch of over balance for every 4 inches of radius.
And that is why you slam me like Ralph does for using a different psuedonym on youtube. You did not know it was me who posted it to someone. And you got caught as a result.
Can it work ? Possibly. But as I have said before Alan, if you did get it to work and claim it as your own, people on youtube, including the person the design was given to might have said something. Somerthing like someone posted that idea and it wasn't you.
This is why I think that people like you and Ralph that do secret builds should not be allowed in here.
I've not seen you post a legitimate build. Putting one lever on a wheel is n0ot a build. That is something so basic it is meaningless. And you did say you have done 600 builds. You and Ralph both, what a laugh.
You sound like a clear case of being jealous Alan. I take the time to analyze what I am working on. This means I need toi work slower. Something that upsets you.
After all, when you tried saying I couldn't do something then being supportive of my current project was nothing but an attempt to emotionally control me. Sorry, that won't ever happen.
Read the 4th statement under abuse Alan. It doews fit your attitude towards me.
http://eqi.org/eabuse1.htm#What%20is%20Emotional%20Abuse?

FDROLMAO Jim

You are so lost, and have no idea but your imagination. I said I have designed over 600 wheels, not built. LOL

Back to the youtube thing. You had to tell me on forum that wh0wants2kn0w was you and here is the link for people to read.
http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=7PW_LA16xYk&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3D7PW_LA16xYk
Note
1 year ago ABthehammer /me
response 9 months ago wh0wants2kn0w/Jim
return response 9 months ago ABthehammer /me
final responce 9 months ago wh0wants2kn0w/Jim

This is the bases of you claim? FDROLMAO like I said it won't work. I have tried it when Scott Hall posted it and I even tried to improve it before I ever talked to you. It didn't work then and it won't work now, nor is it what I am doing. There is no lies from me. The only lies are your accusations. I will never give in and show my best designs before there time, so give it up. 

[AB Hammer]

  broli,
It can be expected for Alan to be abusive towards me. Ralph was in Besslerwheel. He said I am an idiot because of my spelling and that my head injury or speaking English as a second language matter.
And Scott ellis supported that kind of attitude. I have no need to tolerate abuse.
If you notice, Alan said nothing about the Bessler design I posted. Why ?
It's a control issue. He wants to claim he mentored me. This is why he was jealous when i was discussing different things in the G-Force thread. He isn't familiar with science and was jealous when other peole were willing to discuss things with me that he couldn't be in control of.
That could be why Ralph was abusive towards me in bessler wheel. I was discussing things that they're not capable of. And they do promote the idea that they are accomplished builders.
This is engineering. And as such does take time to develop. Neither have the patience.
If they supported bessler, then they would be willing to discuss ideas that might lead to an understanding of how his wheels work.
Mt 25 will work. Ralph has said it won't in the thread he posted for you. It works on a similar principal as mt 24.
With mt 25, when the lever advances, it has a line going through the weight hanging from the fixed arm. This goes to a hoist mechanism that is geared between 2:1 and 3:1. This lefts the weight at the bottom.
This means that the weight that hangs from a fixed arm would be something like 5 lbs. and the weight on the lever 2 1/2 lbs. It would take some fine tuning of the math, but that is the basic idea.
Part of the problem could be the lack of belief that Bessler actually built a working wheel let alone 4 or more   

Jim you keep bringing up the same thing with MT24 and MT25. Over and over. We call this tunnel vision. I have posted and have show an overlay grid over MT24 showing the reasons why. KEEL FACTOR, KEEL FACTOR, KEEL FACTOR, the words you don't want to here, not to mention the weight shift will not over take the KEEL FACTOR.
Bessler never showed his working wheel design and yes he had 4 runners that he showed, but kept his secret and I believe he had other designs that he was saving for later that were more powerful. But he did say all you needed to know was in the MTs. So you might like to test reaction and see what Bessler was talking about.