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First electrical power output from a Pyramid

Started by hartiberlin, January 18, 2006, 05:32:45 PM

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Tigrotto

@Thomas,
I decided to post for you this attached file:
The Translation German-English for V6 building instruction , made by Stefan, where I inserted in BLUE the comments where some information are still missing.
Please, take a look and if you agree, instert the answers!
Then, I'll complete the drawing with ALL these missing informations for completness.
As much our friends here are fully informed as much we'll understand these phenomena replicated by many people.
If , in turn , these informations are missing , you'll have "troubles" because, instead of people replicate the pyramid, they'll ask you again and again.
However,
I'll be one of them replicating also V6.
I'll keep you informed. See attached for the missing informations.
Thank you,
Dr. Ovidiu (Tigrotto)

Thomas_Trawoeger

Hello friends:
I have to give you some very important Informations about the future of TPP.
In our ONLINE Step by step Construction we should built the V12 ! because the plans for the V14 are maybe unstable.
So it could be, that we get some troubles with V14, and we will get bad words, if there is not the wanted function in a fast way.
(It?s to dangerous to get critics if we make something  unproved)

With our V12, we dont have the problem of misfunctions, and after the construction, we can speak about my changes for V14.
But now it is extremly important to show you something really working.

On the other side, the V6 shows you that the system is working proper, and so i will ask you as constructors, whats more interesting. You can decide it here, if you want to built the V12 or the V14.


I received the questions from Dr. Ovidiu (Tigrotto) and i want to give you the answered Document here on file. Now i hope, that the last questions about V6 are cleared. It is the best way to built the pyramide, and then you can try the different setups in a easy way.
(That?s why all my Pyramides looks very unprofessional :-)  But every Pyramide gets ugly, if you destruct, reconstruct, and solder for a few times :-)

A special question runs about the lenght of the wire used for the coils. Well, the lenght is not that goal (i know about the different capacitys, if you change the lenght, but believe, for our project it?s not necessary (but i don?t know why...)

Here is the hopefully finished "Whitebook for V6"

The Trawoeger, Hartmann, Ovidiu White Paper 
Pyramid Building guidance

Building guidance: pyramid with 100cm side length!
It sounds rather simple, but the basic dimensions of the pyramid do not play an important role.
Only 2 factors are important:
1. The ground shape of the pyramid must be absolutely square.
2.The length of the pyramid upper corner rods must be the same as the base quadrat square rod lengths. So all frame rods are 100 cm long !

I use for the side rods of the pyramid for the construction of the pyramid steel pipes (20x20mm).
Squares! Tubes are very complicated to construct, so we use the cheap one vith 2mm thickness
which are optimized with gypsum-paper boards( plates).
We tryed different Materials, but gypsum-paper boards worked best!
(Without these gypsum-paper boards( plates) the adjustment of the pyramid is very difficult)
Plates made of aluminum or other metals do not function.Plates from plastic do not function.

At the pyramid point for measuring purposes a plumb bob is hung up, and calculated afterwards the geometrical center of all the sides ofthe pyramid. (intersection of all surfaces in their centers -see sketch 1) .To find this exact center of all the pyramid sides is the only difficult task in setting it all up.

The pyramid must be grounded very well !(measuring position must be grounded and ground must be connected to the frame for all further measurements!)

The structure of the energy pick-up circuit is described in sketch 2.
From copper tubing approx. 12mm in diameter EXTERNAL Diamater
we are hardsoldering a "U"-shaped body.
2 pieces of T-fittings are fitted to this body at the top side.
On the upper section of this construction a small latch for attachment is hard soldered to the copper pipe.(3) and the whole body is hung with a non conductive cord in such a way into the pyramid that the pyramid center is exactly in the center of the energy pick-up capacitor.

At the left side of the Tube approx. a 90 mm long Graphiterod is in such a manner inserted that it is put centrically into the pipe and has no contact to the pipe.
(NOTE! The rod must be free hanging and must not be fixed down there at the bottom... !)

Now wind 9 turns of isolated copperwire 2.5 mm diameter to a coil winding. (inside diameter about 25mm) Thats not doumented, because it doesn?t matter ! and let the free end run downward.

On the opposite side put likewise a graphiterod (2-3mm diameter pencil rod) freely hanging into the tube. (length of the graphiterod a bit longer e.g. 95mm):
Is this extremely important that the length of the right side rod (95mm as you said ) be a little bit more then the left side(90mm, see above)?????? ? YES!

Bore at the right side a small hole approx. 2mm diameter into the copper tube. This hole must be somewhat more below than the Graphiterod`s end !!! (distance at least 2mm) . At the left side also approx. a 2mm hole is bored (also here somewhat more below than the Graphiterod?s end !
So that the Left  side hole is about 5mm above the right side hole ( because the right side rod is 95mm length and the left side rod is 90mm) ( 95mm-90mm=5mm) .?????? ?YES!!

At the right side a coil moving in opposite directions with 9 turns (2.5 mm cu) is installed.
Did you mean that the ?moving directions? of the two symmetric coils are exactly opposite one respect to the other? --YES

In sketch 3 the condenser is explained!
The condenser is to stand accurately with its center in the absolute center of the pyramid.
The energy pick-up tubing must now completely (however loosely!) filled with quartz sand (.g. finest desert sand or filtersand for pools).
NOTE! When filling it is to be made certain that the electrodes (Graphiterods) do not get in contact with the copperpipes (test with Ohmmeter) 

Now hang the energy pick-up tubing in such a way into the pyramid that the condenser hangs exactly in the center of the pyramid!
Do not set up the pyramid yet for this procedure into Noth South direction!!!!!
Now with a one-way syringe inject saltwater (approx. 5%) into the left lower hole, until the first drop comes out at the right hole.
SLOWLY inject saltwater until the Graphite rods are standing with their lower ends in the saltwater-sand solution.
Sketch 4 shows, in which angle the energy pick-up tubing is to be connected to the pyramid, and how the pyramid is adjusted to north-south alignment.

A small plate capacitor (approx. 25x 140 mm):you forgott to mention the distance between the plates:this give the capacity and is important!  YES. It?s very important, and you have to fix the distance for each pyramide specially. In most cases, you need a distance between 4-7 mm.where only the plus pole is going through  ( what does it mean?????) ? It means, that one pole is connected with the Center, and one Pole is connected with the pyramide itself!!and the negative pole comes from the pyramid frame can multiply the power output of the pyramid.
This must be placed diagonally downward running in the angle of approx. 40 ? right-angled
to the pyramid at the energy pick-up tubing.
From this capacitor also the real output power of the pyramid power takes place. (EXIT!)
(Note: The negative pole must be connected from the pyramid frame to this capacitor
to the other capacitor plate.)

Adjustment of the noth-south alignment:
Connect a voltmeter to the output and turn the pyramid slowly .
As soon as the pyramid shows the highest voltage tension. (open circuit voltage approx.. 19 V) the direction aligment fits.
Possible sources of error:
Too much saltwater: --- Simply , wait one hour until it has run out enough.
Too low volume of saltwater: - - - Inject more saltwater until it drops out of the right hole.
graphite rod to electrode contact: ---check before installation with an Ohmmeter, that this is not the case.
Further possibilities: ------Condenser short-circuit (test it before assembly)
Pyramid does not generate power: -----Change Location, try it outdoors.

English Translation by Stefan Hartmann for www.overunity.com
Edited by Dr. Ovidiu and Thomas Trawoeger

Thomas_Trawoeger

EXTRA INFO:
It can be, that i?m a little bit in silence till Monday morning. This is because i am busy in a Fair till Sunday evening.
So don?t worry about me ;D
we will hear us latest on monday morning, and the website should be ready for this time too.

My website could be down for this time too   :P   - FINAL RECONSTRUCTION TIME -

Till Monday we will decide to built the right TPP


tao

Well done Thomas!

I vote that we do the v12, because as you said yourself, there will be no problems to built a completely working v12 because you know all the pieces very well!

The v14 is new, and there might be some modifications or changes that need to take place to make v14 be the best it can be, and so this might lead to potential problems and 'bad words' from people.

So, I vote that we all build the v12 together, because it has now been established as a working model by you! Once many have good replications, then a v14 can come...

I want to say Thomas: I can't THANK YOU ENOUGH for doing all of this, I am very happy to be a part of this momentous occasion. You are spending a lot of time and effort in this project and I fully appreciate everything you are doing for us!!!


Tigrotto

@ Thomas,
Thanks Thomas for the fact that you understood and followed my request.
Pretty complete, I'll built also V6, as I said.
I'll vote for V12: the surest is the best.
At the beginning of our research work we need to built something "reliable".
God bless you and your family!
Dr. Ovidiu (Tigrotto)