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Overunity Machines Forum



First electrical power output from a Pyramid

Started by hartiberlin, January 18, 2006, 05:32:45 PM

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Koen1

Sorry pese, but I do need to ask you this question:

If it is true what Tigrotto says, that
"Thomas said : ALL the 8 "arms "  of pyramid have to be THE SAME LENGTH...
He added : also the base have to be a perfect square...",

then that means there is a very strict angle for the pyramids apex.

That does not accord with your statement that
"ONLKY thae QUARE ist definitly to give attention !!
Any change in the angel of the top have NOTHING to to with the power."

So do you mean to say that what Tigrotto said is incorrect?
That it does not matter how long the triangular sides are and at what angle they meet at the apex,
as long as you make sure the base is a perfect square?

So we could in fact make one that is very high and slim, like 30cmx30cm base and 200cm high?

and please don't get upset, I'm only asking... :)

Tigrotto

@ Gustav,
Here are the Thomas's words , 100% :

Only 2 factors are important:
1. The ground shape of the pyramid must be absolutely square.
2.The length of the pyramid upper corner rods must be the same as the base quadrat square rod lengths. So all frame rods are 100 cm long !

No comments! ( At least, no comments from my side!)
No need also to disturb again Thomas with these questions!
Tigrotto

neptune

Pay attention . this is very important. Thomas said, that it is the inside surface of the plasterboard[coating] that has the important dimensions. Therefore, the upright [corner]rods are 1000mm long if measured from the floor. If these rods sit on top of the base frame, they need to be less than 1000mm. so, make the frame so that if you could measure the corner joint, inside the pyramid, between two adjacent sides, it would be exactly 1000mm.I have posted here because Thomas site is for serious constructors only. It is a shame that hurricane has not reappeared yet, but Thomas has verified that he is genuine[not fake] I have bought my steel, but no time for welding till weekend.My plan is to use all 30x30x3mm angle iron.We can all think of 1000 questions that can not be answered until we have working pyramids. I hope to build a v6, and change it to a V12 when info becomes available.The V6 circuit is very puzzling when viewed by someone educated in conventional electronics. It would seem to have a very high internal resistance. According to Hurricans published results, he gets about3/4 amp at 6volts. That suggests a load of about 8 ohms. There is no info about the nature of the load. Is it purely resistive? any inductance or capacitance? Still if the output is DC I guess it does not matter.I am in the UK in Lincolnshire. Are there any other constructors in my area?

pese

@koen1

You can only say , WHAT OU KNOW
You cant never SAY that YOU NOT KNOW
You can NEVER SA that that wat i KNOW is WRONG
- because do have not the knowledge and not READ al that
Trawoeger have written  in Forum or mailed with me.

FORGET IT.
Is no Problem to take 1meter or take the Dimension from GIZEH
or any other Phra,mide in THIS WORLD.

Only the Flat must by an rigt square .

It make not "sense" to ask , if all people know this better .

If you look for an "kindergarden" this is not the right place.


IT IS TRUE that T.T. say in this forum take all ARMS 1 meter long

So all folks build on the same ITEM .
So he can better explay and leading you to an working
device . That is the only reason, to say NOW 1 Meter !

If you will have right , no problem , hold it , so long as you want it

Pese
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Koen1

Quote from: pese on December 04, 2007, 02:41:21 PM
@koen1

You can only say , WHAT OU KNOW
You cant never SAY that YOU NOT KNOW
Oh, but it is very easy to say THAT you don't know. It's stating exactly WHAT you do not know that is difficult ;)


QuoteYou can NEVER SA that that wat i KNOW is WRONG
- because do have not the knowledge and not READ al that
Trawoeger have written  in Forum or mailed with me.
I fear you misunderstand my point.
I am not trying to tell you you are wrong at all.
I am asking you what you think about the subject, because you and Tigrotto appeared to be saying contradictory things.
And I am of course asking you because you have made it very clear that you apparently have been following this for years now,
and therefore know more about it than me. Why are you turning that around and BLAMING me for not knowing?
If someone asks you where London is, do you blame them for asking and not knowing, or do you tell them where it is? ;)

QuoteFORGET IT.
Forget WHAT exactly?
QuoteIs no Problem to take 1meter or take the Dimension from GIZEH
or any other Phra,mide in THIS WORLD.
Well if that is the case then it shouldn't be a problem to use any dimensions as long at it is still a pyramid of some kind...right?
So whether or not a pyramid actually already exists in this world with those same dimensions (I mean height, length, width, not time and space)
doesn't really matter then, does it?
Oh, and again, I am ASKING, not telling you.

QuoteOnly the Flat must by an rigt square .

It make not "sense" to ask , if all people know this better .
It also makes not sense speak as Yoda to do. Better people will understand this not. ;) Sorry for the joke. :)
Do you mean to say that it is no use to ask people if they know if it works?
Why not? If there is any sort of theory behind it, or if mr Trawoeger has ever mentioned anything about the need for
a certain angle at the top or the length of the arms not being important during those years that I have not read about,
then obviously it DOES make sense to ask people who have been following mr Trawoegers work for longer...

QuoteIf you look for an "kindergarden" this is not the right place.
No, indeed this is not a kindergarten, this is a forum.
Which means that we discuss things here.
If you are unwilling to discuss things, then why post on the forum?
If you're looking for someone to insult, then I must disappoint you. Your insult is simply not clear enough to be insulting.
If it is not meant as an insult, then I am completely missing the point you are trying to make here.


QuoteIT IS TRUE that T.T. say in this forum take all ARMS 1 meter long

So all folks build on the same ITEM .
So he can better explay and leading you to an working
device . That is the only reason, to say NOW 1 Meter !
Ah, well at least this part is clear. :)
So it does NOT matter what length the arms are, as long as the sides of the base square are all equal,
but to make it easier to compare the replicated versions built by the others,
mr Trawoeger has decided to use 1 meter sides everywhere, so that everyone build the same 1 meter pyramid.
Thank you for clearing that up.
So we CAN in fact build a pyramid with a base of 1x1m and a height of let's say 2m, if we wanted to.


QuoteIf you will have right , no problem , hold it , so long as you want it
Pardon?
Oh you mean to say "if it works, no problem, make it as high as you want to"?
Ok then.
Well thanks for clearing this up.
You see, this is why I asked you and not Tigrotto. Clearly Tigrotto has followed the recent building instructions,
but thinks that the dimensions have to be exact on all points, whereas you have been following it for a longer time
and know that some of the dimensions, like the square base, are crucial, but others like the height are not.