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Stanley Meyer Explained

Started by h20power, March 15, 2009, 06:34:59 PM

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kolbacict

And then there is such a device. It can be powered by 12 volts from battery.
If you put it on an insulating table. Is it possible to make measurements instead of a differential probe?  Only the handles cannot be touched. :D

h20power

Hi Kolbacict,


I'm not sure but it would seem that would work. Then the problem might be the voltage ratings of the probes you have as if you place the probes across the entire exciter array the voltages will exceed 10 kv with a 10 resonant cavity cell like mines or Meyer's after he disconnected one of his eleven resonant cavities. Now you can place the probe directly across just one of the cells in the series array as it will be ten times less in it's voltage than the entire series array.


For a resonant cavity built to Meyer's specifications to get it going the potential voltages need to be 500 volts negative and 500 volts positive which gives a total of 1 kv of potential difference. This is the minimum requirements to get the tech working and note it might take just a bit more than this for as seen in the other notes that I posted on Meyer's stuff he was placing a total of 10.2 kv of potential difference on the injectors. Failure to reach these high voltages will result in the setup doing not to much of anything as the threshold for ionization hasn't been reached. Think of it like trying to boil water. If you take it up to 98° C nothing is going to happen to the water as you haven't reached it's boiling point so it's not going to boil. This is no different as both of these atoms have a voltage threshold that must be reached before the atoms go into a state of ionization and start releasing their electrons. Trust me nothing will happen as I held the voltage at 9.6 kv for something like three days straight on my cell and it would try to start but no dice. So I have to redo the transformer in order to reach the proper voltage levels when I get the funds to do so. I think even Don Gable got close but again it will do nothing if the ionization threshold isn't reached. I think his transformer shorted out on him as his transformer coils were exposed to the open air which will ionize the air making it conductive and they were allowed to vibrate which will rub off the wire's protective coating. There is a reason why I vacuum resin seal these transformers now and these two problems are it.


One thing everyone needs to understand is the electricity doesn't wish to go through this resistive wire or an inductor at resonance which acts like a very large resistor. If given the chance it will take a short cut to it's isolated ground or to any grounding source you place too near to the device. Do not stick your finger in the water bath when it is up near these voltages as it will discharge the capacitor through you to get to the earth's ground. Thus it's very important to make sure the isolated side of this technology can't find a way to ground as it must remain isolated at all times for this technology to work correctly. This is why Meyer's injectors didn't work all that well as they would work fine in the test setup he had as it was made of plastic and thus kept things isolated but as soon as he would put the injectors in the engine it would ground out to the car's electrical system. I am sure given enough time he would have solved that problem but he wasn't given any more time.


Meyer and I have different solutions to the same problems we face as that's only normal as we are two different people. His solution to prevent the current from taking a short cut in his WFC was to disconnect one of the resonant cavities and mines was to rewire the resonant cavity splitting the cell in half where the input voltage connections were now 180° apart from one another. Same problem different solution from two very different men. This is what understanding this technology has allowed me to do as I no longer need to follow everything Meyer did as I understand what must be done and why which is precisely why I went out of my way to get at the real science behind this technology. You see if there were mistakes made I'd be able to see them but only if I understood the science behind it all. And, I could come up with totally new solutions to any problems he faced.


People love to get mad at me for saying things like this but I think I just showed the proof to them that I am now qualified to see and correct problems Meyer faced with this technology when he was still alive and come up with different solutions to problems he faced.


Let me know if you want me to post photos my my WFC solution that was different than Meyer's solution, okay?


Edward

kolbacict

Hi Edward.
I else came up with something better !   8)
If you don't have a good differential probe and you don't have the money to buy it.
You can apply a high-voltage signal directly to the CRT plates. An old oscilloscope with a CRT.
Am I smart?  ;)
p.s.
QuoteLet me in if you want me to post photos my my WFC solution that was different than Meyer's solution, okay?
What does this mean?

h20power

Oops, that's a type-o, sorry. I corrected it.


I assume the answer would be yes if not by you but by my many fans and haters alike.


In these photos I show how I went about breaking the cell in half as I wired 5 cells one way and the remaining 5 cells the other way and joined them by a longer wire. You see the problem Meyer ran into was current will always follow the path of least resistance. The current that would charge up the plates of the exciter array simply jumped over the top of the positive and negative resonant cavities as the combined space gaps between each to the cells in the series array was greater than the distance between the two adjacent resonant cavities where the positive and negative connections were made. So the current would only move to charge two of the resonant cavities in the series array as a result as that was the shortest/least restrictive path to ground.
This is the reason why Meyer disconnected one of the resonant cavities of his eleven series array as by doing so now the least restrictive path to ground was going through the remaining cells in the series array. Since I understood what was going on I knew that if I ran a wire around the cell to complete the series array that wire's resistance was much less than the resistance for the current to try and jump over the top of the cells as now the positive and negative connections are 180° apart from one another in their circular arrangement. There is a third solution and that is to make the exciter array in a inline array setup and not in a circular array pattern. But this all has to do with realizing that water is a physical part of the circuit and as such it's resistance is measures in physical distance. You have the distance between the plates and the distance between each of the resonant cavities. In a circular array if the combined distance of the gaps between each of the resonant cavities of the series array is greater than the physical distance between the negative and positive connections the current would take the shortest path to ground.

So, we have the same problem that can be solved by multiple solutions and my solution was just different than Meyer's solution, but in my solution I got to use all of the resonant cavities in my series array while he had to disconnect one of his resonant cavities. Note I used wire that is rated to handle 15 kv between each cell and 30 kv for the negative and positive connections.


With understanding of the technology I can solve problems in a different way than Meyer did and see problems he didn't get a chance to see due to his untimely death.


Take care,
Edward


kolbacict

I understood. Thank you.   :)
Be that as it may, I have not yet managed to have more gas output than by  Michael Faraday.
In WFC was always a analog ammeter in the circuit. For control of the constant current component.
How many coulombs of electricity were passed through the cell, so much gas was obtained.
And it was never possible to get more than a few tens of volts per cell. :(
Although I know, in radio engineering, even copper can be the perfect insulator.
This is when, for example, in long lines there are quarter-wave short-circuiting bridges ...
I don't know how to say it exactly in English, but I hope you will understand me.
But with these cell sizes, frequncy it should be many gigahertz ...