Stanley Meyer Explained

[h20power]

Hi H20power so what can one do to increase electrolysis in a cell? A guy said to put an oscillator near the cell. I am using tha lawton circuit now but if you have other ideas I would like to hear.
Thanks

Hi,
What you want it to do is ionized the water, for you do not want any electrolysis going on at all. Once you get the water to ionized just like creating ozone, water starts to lose electrons. An atom can lose a few electrons and remain the atom it is, but not a molecule for by losing electrons makes the molecule become unstable and break apart for it can no longer satisfy the Octet Rule.
In order to do this the charging choke must have a greater capacitance than the capacitor that is to be charged. In order to get higher voltages the resistance of the circuit has too increase. In patent 4789661 in the drawings you will see a variable resistor just after the negative electrode and the ground. The resistor is 60n, and in the patent Meyer tells us that with increased voltages the resistance has to go up. This raises the "Breakdown Point" and at the same time cuts the amps going to the system. The 8xa circuit can be modified with a Lawton circuit so your in luck  .  As you raise the voltage more water is broken down by way of increased ionization. That is the key to Meyer's water breakdown method, high resistance to keep the amps low and high voltage to ionize the water molecules thus ejecting very electrons it needs to keep it in a stable state.

There is no normal electrolysis taking place in the method Meyer employed. By increasing voltage/resistance you increase the amount of gas produced.

Hope that helped some,

h2opower

[Doug1]

I dont think that was the pat number you were looking to post.You might want to check that.

[Doug1]

Wiki is nice enough to pile them all up in a bunch at the end of their page on Stan.
U.S. Patent 5,149,407,U.S. Patent 4,936,961,U.S. Patent 4,826,581,U.S. Patent 4,798,661,U.S. Patent 4,613,779,U.S. Patent 4,613,304,U.S. Patent 4,465,455,U.S. Patent 4,421,474,U.S. Patent 4,389,981
I would still use pat2pdf to read them and would not be to shocked if one day it does not come out that these patents have been altered.Should still be enough to work off of to play around with it.Dont forget the cited patents with in the individual patents.that may lead you to an easier way to get it done.Most inventors have to create a more complex method to avoid infringment on previous works.Work your way backwards and it likely paints a simple picture requiring little effort or work.
 

[guruji]

Hi,
What you want it to do is ionized the water, for you do not want any electrolysis going on at all. Once you get the water to ionized just like creating ozone, water starts to lose electrons. An atom can lose a few electrons and remain the atom it is, but not a molecule for by losing electrons makes the molecule become unstable and break apart for it can no longer satisfy the Octet Rule.
In order to do this the charging choke must have a greater capacitance than the capacitor that is to be charged. In order to get higher voltages the resistance of the circuit has too increase. In patent 4789661 in the drawings you will see a variable resistor just after the negative electrode and the ground. The resistor is 60n, and in the patent Meyer tells us that with increased voltages the resistance has to go up. This raises the "Breakdown Point" and at the same time cuts the amps going to the system. The 8xa circuit can be modified with a Lawton circuit so your in luck  .  As you raise the voltage more water is broken down by way of increased ionization. That is the key to Meyer's water breakdown method, high resistance to keep the amps low and high voltage to ionize the water molecules thus ejecting very electrons it needs to keep it in a stable state.

There is no normal electrolysis taking place in the method Meyer employed. By increasing voltage/resistance you increase the amount of gas produced.

Hope that helped some,

h2opower

Hi H20power thanks for the info first of all I don't know how much voltage the lawton circuit can hold. Second I have a 12v battery bank so I should do an inverter to higher voltage say 48v. Is this dangerous for an arc happening in water?.
Thanks

[h20power]

HI Everyone,
Yeah that was a typo, sorry about that should be 4798661.
As for getting sparks in between the gaps that is what Meyer's definition of Amp Leakage means, which is also the dielectric breakdown of the medium. So the resistance is there to prevent all of that from happening. In order for an arc to occur it needs some amps behind it, and Meyer tried to take all of the amps away from the system as much as he could. For again the object is to ionize the water by preventing any Dr. Faraday type electrolysis from taking place. Just like something that makes ozone from the air Meyer did the same thing to water. He ionized it to remove electrons which in turn causes the water molecules to break down into their component atoms.

h2opower