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Stanley Meyer Explained

Started by h20power, March 15, 2009, 06:34:59 PM

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h20power

Mitchell's Theorem - "All Molecules can be separated into their component atoms by taking away the electrons from the atoms that make up the molecules." [/font][/size]

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Basically what is being done to break the bonds of the water molecules with this technology is mimicking the way a thunderstorm works but plants also break the bonds of the water molecules like this. The last step in the way a plant breaks the bonds of the water molecules is to take the electrons away from the atoms that make up the water molecules. What I found interesting in my studies to learn how this technology actually works is no one ever asked this question, "How does plant break the bonds of the water molecules?" Once I saw that all it really did was to reach in and take the electrons away from the atoms of the water molecules I then looked into other ways in which we know how to get the electrons away from their atoms. I found so many examples of that new theorem I came up with that it's a wonder no one ever saw it before, but I guess if you are not looking for it asking the right questions then sure no one would ever see it.[/font][/size]

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So, you all might be wondering what other examples of that theory in action did I find, correct? Once I knew what to look for the rest was easy. The explosions that took place at those three nuclear power plants in Fukushima separated the bonds of the water molecules by way of radiation bombardment. Again I find it rather interesting that no one ever ask, "Where did the hydrogen come from?" The radiation was so high that it physically knocked the electrons away from the atoms that make up the water molecules and in doing so create hydrogen, oxygen, and electricity. As the process takes place an electrical charge is being built up which will create a spark when it has enough energy to do so which ignited the hydrogen and blew radiation all over the globe.


In thunderstorms, which we all know clouds are capacitors, a charge is built up and when it has enough energy to ionize the atoms of the molecules they release their electrons and the molecules they once formed are no more as it happens to Nitrogen & Oxygen molecules as well as the water molecules. All of them will product the lone gas atom of the molecules plus electricity and once the cloud is charged enough it produces a electrical discharge we all know as lightening. The thunder we and feel and hear is a hydrogen explosion taking place in the clouds that has the power to shake the very ground we walk on.
Some planes have found out the hard way that when the conditions are right a thunderstorm produces vase quantities of hydrogen like flight TWA 800 that intercepted the hydrogen gas on it's way to the top of the cloud and it's engines ignited the hydrogen gas blowing the plane to kingdom come.


Now that you all know what to look for you can easily find other examples of this theory I created in action. Plus now you know how Meyer went about breaking the bonds of the water molecules at rates high enough to run his dun buggy with very little electrical power input and you also know why the water doesn't heat up like it does with electrolysis. With electrolysis current is being used to get the electrons away from the atoms that make up the water molecules and with current use comes heat. Meyer mimicked a thunderstorm in which high voltage potential differences are used to break the bonds of the water molecules as yes voltage does perform work and now you know a bit more about how it all works.


My use of the scientific method lead me to see exactly how this technology works and in doing so also found out that we humans still have a lot to learn about the way things work in the world we live in and call home.

onepower

h2opower

It's good to see someone is trying to put all the pieces together as it relates to the natural world.

As you say, plants take in CO2 and H2O and use the Sun's energy to break up the H2O into H to form hydrocarbons and expel the O2 everyday all around us. If they want proof all they have to do is look outside there window at all that green stuff growing all over the place. Nature does it all the time and I suspect once mankind has matured they will as well.

A man named Viktor Schauberger built a device which used this natural process. The device did the opposite to what we do burning CH to form CO2, H2O and an expanding heat reaction. Viktor's device pulled in air containing CO2 and then added charged water vapor (thundercloud) to liberate the H within the H2O. The H then combined with the C in the CO2 to reform back into a CH and O2... just like every plant does. Note that deforming or burning CH with O2 forms CO2, H2O and produces heat which expands a volume. However reforming H2O and CO2 back into CH and O2 produces a contracting volume, equal yet opposite. Thus the deforming CH-O2>H2O-CO2 reaction and the reforming H2O-CO2>CH-O2 reaction can perform the same amount work, equal yet opposite.

At the end of the day any old fool can burn/deform/destroy something to liberate energy but to reform/recreate something like nature does and liberate energy... that is genius. It's not that difficult to understand and the equations are as follows.
Destruction + Unsustainability = Stupid + Suicide
Reconstruction + Sustainability = Life





ramset

Mr.Mitchel,Thank you for posting your info [perhaps again ?]I believe the earlier Rudeness will not be so prevalent...[ for the time being.

There was another group from Florida USA which was talking about making a trip across  country in a large motor home that ran on a system which was compared to a Lightning strike
or similar ?  They were supposedly going to stop in Washington DC and show congressmen ?
been a while since this was shared ...I believe they had a video too ?will look for that info [or someone here familiar can post it in the mean time ?
I know this has been a ruff trip for you ...thanks fo sharing your hard work and thoughts
respectfully Chet K
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

h20power

Thanks Onepower and Ramset for the kind words and you are very welcome as the way I see it it's time for this technology to come out. The other guy I really don't blame him as he has worked on this technology for a long time and came up empty handed which is very frustrating to say the least, but his continued rudeness was unacceptable and uncalled for.


It took me a long time to get at the actually science behind Meyer's work but in the end I did finally get around all of Meyer's many misleading statements misdirection. With photosynthesis the only thing one needs to ask and answer is, "How does a plant break the bonds of the water molecules?" As simple as that questions seems it has never been asked before, as far as I can tell, thus never answered. The answer to that question is the plant takes the electrons away from the atoms that make up the water molecules which action breaks the bonds of those water molecules. What it does with the hydrogen and oxygen doesn't concern me as that was not part of the question. Once I saw that all it did to break the bonds of the water molecules was to take electrons away from the atoms constituting it another question came up. "How many ways do we know of on how to take the electrons away from their atoms?" When I had found a few I then went looking for examples of water being broken down that way and found many different examples of that to be true.


Then I got curious if that worked on other molecules? and searched for proof and found it. Oxygen and nitrogen molecules are nonpolar covalent molecules. They cannot dissociate into positive and negative ions, separating charge this way, because their bonding electrons are snugly and equally shared between them. Instead, the electric field must be intense enough to rip tightly bound electrons off the atoms in these molecules, ionizing them that way. That act breaks the molecules down into it's component atoms as the intense electric field causes the atoms to eject their electrons, no electrons no covalent bonds.

In my study of thunderstorms I found out what is in the books is incomplete for once the cloud's electrical charge is strong enough to overcome the atoms ionization energies and causes those atoms to eject their electrons the molecules they formed gets broken down. The produce the atoms that made up the molecules and leave behind those ejected electrons to further increase the charge. Once this charge is high enough it will overcome the air's resistance and produce a lightening strike. In the diagram I posted different nitrogen atoms and molecules to give you an idea of what is happening to them. Only the five valence (outer shell) electrons in each nitrogen atom are shown. In reality, nitrogen atoms contain 7 electrons, with two of them confined to an inner energy shell. Lower right Is a partially ionized atom. There are degrees of ionization. A fully ionized atom (bottom left) contains only the nucleus. In this case, every electron moved into an excited energy shell and then left the atom altogether (it takes even more energy to remove the two inner electrons not shown in the other atoms).

We'll explore this ionization process further in a moment.

It takes almost twice the energy (945 kJ/mol) to break the powerful triple bond of a nitrogen molecule than it does to break the double bond of an oxygen molecule (497 kJ/mol). A kilojoule (kJ) is a measure of energy. One mole (mol) of atoms contains 6.02 x 1023 atoms. Once split, oxygen atoms are a bit more easily (partially) ionized than nitrogen atoms - 1314 kJ/mol compared to 1402 kJ/mol, respectively, to remove an outer electron (to remove all the electrons from a nitrogen atom, including those in the inner higher energy shells, would require far more energy, about 4578 kJ/mol - nitrogen in this state is also a plasma, but it has much higher energy).

The electric field  building beneath a thundercloud eventually has enough energy to break apart, excite and ionize nitrogen and oxygen molecules. Nitrogen atoms by themselves are highly reactive. They will quickly recombine into nitrogen (N2) gas or into nitrous oxide (NO).  Meanwhile, excited nitrogen molecules emit blue light. Oxygen molecules likewise are excited. They may also release photons of light, but more often they react with unexcited oxygen molecules to create ozone, before they have a chance to. This ozone, which only lasts about an hour before it decays back into molecular oxygen, is often linked with the fresh clean smell after a thunderstorm. The air under a thunderstorm is very humid. Ionized hydrogen atoms split apart from water vapor contribute red to the glow, so that ionized humid air glows violet. Now being a scientist I already know you don't typically find hydrogen all by it's self in nature but yet there it is.

This is how thunderstorms work as when the conditions are right they produce hydrogen in vase quantities as well a other ionized gas atoms. Meyer simply mimicked this but arranged the capacitor(s) to a vertical position so that the ionized gases could escape without being ignited by the electric field. Every molecule broken down adds it's electron to the cloud increasing the electric field intensity. This explains why the reaction kept going after Meyer shut the device down as those electrons are in the water bath and must travel through the VIC circuit which has resistance which will convert that energy into heat. Basically the capacitor is being discharged and that takes time based on how highly charged it is through the diode until the voltage/current controlled switch shuts off as that is the role the diode plays in the VIC circuit.

In time this technology will turn the tide on climate change but thanks to those that sell energy, whom paid some scientist to tell everyone that this technology violates the laws of physics, it's tough to get support for this technology. As unlike those tobacco scientist where everyone could clearly see they were lying this time those paid-to-say scientist got believed by the general public as their general understanding of science isn't all that great.

For us, now we can clearly see voltage does in fact do work and all we have to do is place a high voltage potential difference electrical field on the plates of the water capacitors we make. It's not as easy as I make it sound but at least we now know what must be done and why.


I know of another guy that figured out some other things on using hydrogen to power ICE cars named Roger Billings and have made contact with him. Here is a video where he talks about how he beat the electric car on being what best for our environment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jn59ivRpQQ

onepower

h2opower
QuoteFor us, now we can clearly see voltage does in fact do work and all we have to do is place a high voltage potential difference electrical field on the plates of the water capacitors we make. It's not as easy as I make it sound but at least we now know what must be done and why.

I agree and found it strange how so many of the critics keep saying "voltage has no power" or "voltage can do no work".

In fact, Voltage is the Difference in Potential and the "Force" in the (Work = Force x Distance) equation. The Potential Difference is the "Force" and the Current is the flow over a "Distance". At which point it should become clear that when any person claims voltage has no power or can do no work they obviously do not understand what Voltage or Work are nor how they relate to one another.

The Voltage or Difference in Potential is the Force which causes something to move. The effect is that something is forced to move over a distance which we call work and when a given amount of work occurs over a period of time we call it Energy. However normally we just say everything is Energy because everything is already in perpetual motion everywhere. Everything is in perpetual motion which is Energy because we can find no examples of anything in the universe which is not in motion on some scale.

It can get kind of confusing because many claim to be looking for energy when in fact they are made of energy and literally swimming in a sea of it. Maybe they cannot find it because they are too deeply immersed in it?. In my opinion the premise of Free Energy is that we cannot create or destroy energy, only transform it. So what were trying to do is transform one kind of motion already present into another kind of motion which better suits our needs. 

So really the Meyer device is just a motion converter which breaks up some molecules, reforms them into other molecules, liberates some of the internal motion present in the molecules during the reformation process and transforms the motion into a more suitable form we can use.

Regards