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Stanley Meyer Explained

Started by h20power, March 15, 2009, 06:34:59 PM

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h20power

Quote from: sm0ky2 on October 28, 2022, 12:09:21 PM
So because a few 'controllers' banned you from their forums,
The rest of us are just hung out to dry and you'll take this to the grave like Stan did?


No, as you all have access to the same patents I went over to get at the science behind the technology but apparently not the will to make use of the scientific method to attain the information you seek. Am I missing something here? Is any of this making sense to you? It's not just a "few" controllers but all but two of them by my count. Yes, just two people allowed me to share what I was finding in my experiments with everyone and Stefan Hartmann is one of them. But as I sat back thinking about just how much time and money I had spent getting at the science behind this technology it dawned on me why should I just give this to those that pushed me out of their spaces online? They surely haven't earned it correct? All the innocents you speak of sat back and did nothing for the most part while I was being crucified by these people.


As far as being hung out to dry I am attempting to actually put this technology on the market at a fare price so that most people can afford to have it, but not only that as I will make the technology safe for use also. Or did that one skip passed you? This technology has to go into mass production as it's quite expensive to build correctly with everyone building "One Offs," on their own as then most people will not be able to afford this technology. Think of it this way, what would have happened to Elon Musk if not a soul purchased a single car from him? Would Tesla inc be a thing right now? That answer is no. So, when this technology comes out if you want the world to have it you must move to support it or it will never make it into our world. This is one of the main reasons why I created a crowdfund so that people with vision of just what this technology can do for humanity can move to support it in it's early days when it's just trying to get off the ground and get started. This is just the way capitalism works as in order to get the best prices on things one must by the stuff they need to make the widgets in bulk, thus the need for this technology to go into mass production so that the prices are brought way down so that most people can afford to have it.


I've been over talks like these before and most didn't want to hear it then and I now assume they don't want to hear it now as most that are asking only care about themselves and the rest of the world be damned just as long as they get theirs. I have to move around these types of people as the world won't make it if it was up to their way of thinking. How is the world to wing itself off of fossil fuel use for transportation and power generation if the persons who get the technology only care about whom they see in the mirror every morning? These type of people are totally unwilling to give any type of support to someone who is trying to bring technologies like these into our world because they can't share in the profits that may or may not be had by this technology. These people are greedy and cling to the worst parts of capitalism as they know that they will thrive when inequality is at it's maximum. All I wish is for people like this to go to sleep and not wake up in the morning as then the world truly would be a better place for all whom remain on the planet after they are gone.


I hate to keep bringing up Elon Musk but his is the story we all know of someone bringing a dream to reality with his vision of electric cars. This technology is no different in that if no one moves to support it the world will never have it but if they do move to support it they will be put in full control of their own energy needs as that's the core of just what this technology will do for humanity besides cleaning up the atmosphere. Right now I understand just what this technology can do for humanity and my mission is to allow others to also share in this vision of just what this technology can do for the lives of the many and not the greed of the few as that latter part is what has gotten us into this mess in the first place. This is why I put my crowdfund page link at the end of my name in the hopes that some out there can see the vision of just what this technology can do for humanity and make the choice to willing move to support the one that is trying to bring this technology into our world.


In this world one person can make a difference but that person needs the support of the many behind them to be able to make that difference. I'm just one man doing what I can to bring this technology into our world and I think after me there will be no one that will willing take up the banner and/or cause of trying to get this technology into the hands of those that need it the most. Phasing out the use of fossil fuels is going to take a long time as there are more than 1.3 billion vehicles in our world that need to be converted over to using this technology and trust me that's not something that is going to happen over night.


Shalom Everyone,
Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions
https://gofund.me/87a49b22

Dog-One

I can't disagree with what you have stated.  The hesitation many have is they want to see this and know it works:

You give the world a fully functional prototype and you'll have more support than you can manage.

sm0ky2

Look buddy you dont need to throw your all-mightier-than-thou attitude at me.
I get that you're disgruntled over whatever happen wherever elsewhere you were at before.
But you have come here to an open source discussion forum with vague cryptic insinuations that YOU have something 'noone else has' and toss your go fund me link on it.


What's to separate you from just another "free energy" scammer asking for money?
The fuzzy video with a tank making bubbles?


I hope you get what you're looking for.
Personally i need more to go on than you saying you're the only one that knows the 'secret'.



I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

h20power

Quote from: sm0ky2 on October 29, 2022, 03:26:12 AM
Look buddy you dont need to throw your all-mightier-than-thou attitude at me.
I get that you're disgruntled over whatever happen wherever elsewhere you were at before.
But you have come here to an open source discussion forum with vague cryptic insinuations that YOU have something 'noone else has' and toss your go fund me link on it.


What's to separate you from just another "free energy" scammer asking for money?
The fuzzy video with a tank making bubbles?


I hope you get what you're looking for.
Personally i need more to go on than you saying you're the only one that knows the 'secret'.


Listen, I can remember the first time I tried to bring some standardization to this technology by making a cell for everyone at a loss to myself financially so we could better share are work together all working off of the same WFC. It was just $1k USD for this WFC and it was costing me more than that to have it made and shipped out to those that purchased it. Then I wake up one morning and find the photo I had posted was being used by Daniel Donitelli of Secure Supplies with a workable link for someone to purchase the WFC but he hadn't made any contact with me on getting the cell to send to whomever hit the buy button and spent their monies with him instead of me. So, just what did they get if they purchased the cell from him when he hadn't made any attempt to contact me to acquire this WFC? And then Russ Gries went and told everyone that I was trying to rip them off and when they moved to make a WFC for everyone the cost was more than $400 USD higher in cost and you had to put it together yourself, purchase the connection wires, connectors, and the water level float switch on your own to boot. My unit was just plug and play. Do you remember all of this? Only two people purchased the WFC from me and they are quite happy with it's construction.


I then made an upgraded WFC that held the tolerances to just ±0.0005", which is the cell I am currently using right now. This time however I wasn't selling it at a loss as I did the previous WFC and the cost was $1630 USD with free shipping for again a plug and play unit. Several people purchased that WFC from me in spite Russ Gries running around telling everyone I was trying to rip them off. Many years afterwards a lot of people contacted me to apologize to me and told me they wish they had purchased that WFC especially when there was a six resonant cavity cell being sold for just a bit less than I was charging for the ten resonant cavity WFC but you had to pay for shipping and again purchased all the things to hook it up on your own which actually made their unit cost more than the one I was selling. That was my last attempt to bring some much needed standardization to the movement so that we could all be working with the same type of apples which would have allowed us to work more effectively with one another. At the time I was a believer in Open Source as I didn't fully understand what it was all about. But now that I understand that once materials need to be purchased Open Source no longer works as that system only works for things that do not require any materials to be purchased like computer programs and things of the like. This is why you don't see many attempting to follow me in the work I am doing as in order to do so they too would have to purchase everything they have seen me purchase and the cost is just too high for them.


If Open Source actually works for things that require folks to buy materials then why hasn't anyone attempted to make one of Elon Musk EV cars as he did Open Source the information on how to make them? That reason would be the same as I just described in that to do so folks would have to purchase all the same machines he was using to assemble those cars.


As far as me having information no one else has on this technology that's an easy one to see and prove as what I showed being done at the 2013 Global BEM has never been duplicated by anyone to this very date. I think someone managed to reach 1kv to their ten cell WFC when I shown in a provable manor me applying over 4kv to the WFC. Later on I kept improving my efforts to get high voltage to the WFC and stopped sharing my results with everyone after seeing that all that did was make folks resentful of me when I reached 8.8kv of potential difference to the black WFC. But getting back to my point if I didn't know something about this technology that no one else knows then there would be others that reached these voltage levels also would they not? I don't know of anyone working on this technology that has reached the voltages I have shown being applied to the water fuel cell more than 9 years ago let alone to the voltages I am attaining being applied to the WFC right now. If there are others please point them out to me.


Again the most I have seen anyone besides me achieve is 1kv of potential difference when Meyer makes it clear that to get the WFC working each resonant cavity needs to have 1kv of potential difference and for a WFC with ten resonant cavities wired in series that means 10kv of potential difference needs to be applied to the WFC to reach the threshold for ionization. Why? Because each resonant cavity wired in series in the WFC divides the voltages among them equally is why. So, the proof is in my work comparing it to the work of others that I am doing something different than everyone else is doing as if not everyone else would be getting the same results, correct?


I know folks still love to hate on me as it's become kind of a habit for them at this point in time, but I keep things real and not venture into the world of make believe.


Now if you can point someone else besides me getting voltages levels this high being applied to their WFC that would prove me wrong in my assumption that is based on what I see others doing.


Take care,
Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions
https://gofund.me/87a49b22

h20power

Quote from: Dog-One on October 29, 2022, 12:27:26 AM
I can't disagree with what you have stated.  The hesitation many have is they want to see this and know it works:

You give the world a fully functional prototype and you'll have more support than you can manage.


Thanks Dog-One,


Yes, I understand this very well. And just know many a time I thought I'd had purchased enough equipment to finish this transformer correctly to only find that I needed to buy something else after attempting to make it failed. I had no idea these wire tensioners cost so much but I know that I have to get some if I am going to be able to make the transformer as designed using the coil winding machine I recently purchased. At first I was winding up these transformers by hand to only find out that the inconsistent winds in the transformer would cause weak spots for the transformer to fail. That took quite a few years to figure out. Then the cost to make the bobbins for these transformers were seriously prohibitive but along came a technology that allowed me to cut out those costly middle men and I purchased that machine. This saved me a tone of cash as I went from paying $3k USD for a bobbin set to now paying only around $15-25 USD for a bobbin set. Plus the time it now takes me to get a bobbin set made is now in hours and not months as before as I had to wait in line when going to the machine shops to have these bobbins made.


As I wait to save up the funds I need to purchase, hopefully, the last things I need to be able to build this technology correctly. It gives everyone else wanting in on this technology a chance to catch up. But just whom should I show a working prototype too exactly? In this forum I have already shown what it looks like when water is being broken down by way of ionization but on a small scale and no one is excited by what was shown even though it is something they have never seen before. So, again comes the question of just whom should this technology be shown too? In this area I have to tread carefully as all that did so wrongfully didn't try and fail as they tried and died.


Just know I have a plan that I am following that should allow me to live to tell the tale when all is said and done about this technology. If what I have shown in this forum isn't enough for folks then I request that they set up to the plate and take a swing at this. As from my point of view there are supporters of this technology and those that sit around doing nothing expecting the world to change in a dream state of mind. Like I said phasing out the use of fossil fuels is going to be a monumental task as folks have no idea just how many vehicles there are that need to be converted over to this technology in order to phase out the use of fossil fuels. The number I gave of 1.3 billion is only for cars on the roadways and not everything else that is currently powered by fossil fuels that also need to be converted.


I find that people that generally come to forums like these don't think in such large numbers like these as they tend to be self centered and self serving. The reason why I think this way of them is due to their actions taken against me when I attempted to bring standardization to this technology. But I also think this way of them due to how they responded to each and every advancement I'd show as I learned the do's and don'ts of this technology by way of trail and error testing making use of the scientific method. I can still read in this thread some folks telling me to take this scientific method and shove it. This school of hard knocks Meyer spoke about really does knock one around a bit. Again the way I see things when it comes to supporting or not supporting this technology is without support this technology hasn't a snowballs chance in hell.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions
https://gofund.me/87a49b22