Stanley Meyer Explained

[alan]

I'm sure Joe's cell is fake, that was my conclusion  years ago. Zero-science device.

[h20power]

mr. h20power

your view, in my eyes, is very myopic.

I do know how a JoeCell works actually.
it is an optical transmutation device which Walter Russell described decades before Joe built one!

are you familiar with Lord Kelvins 'Thunderstorm'?
his water dropper experiment... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_water_dropper

Explain to me, how does flowing water generate spark discharge? experiment proves flowing water makes lightning...

My only point here is ppl who experiment with water DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS. Maybe water is liquid electricity. 

I won't bother you again on here. This is your territory I see.

Cheers,
-wlw

Yes this is my thread where I gave away the science I uncovered about this technology free of charge as notice the title says, "Stanley Meyer Explained." Now I will openly admit that I did not show how to actually get the technology up and running as I made no promise to do such a thing in the past as all I promised was if I got at the science behind this technology I would share it openly and trust me I did do just that complete with real world examples backing up the theory I came up with.


The problem as I see it is folks wishing to get this technology up and running don't have enough science under their belts and aren't willing to spend the amounts of money required to purchase the many tools, machines, and materials they will need to get this technology up and running. I have mentioned many times in this thread that one must get a "Differential Probe," to be able to read this technology as one would be working in the blind without one. But looking at the actions of others it's clear to me folks just don't have enough science behind them to know that to be a must have tool for working with this technology. You see due to the high voltages required to get this technology up and running a differential probe that can withstand these voltages is a bit pricy and folks just aren't willing to spend what it takes to get this technology up and running as that's not the only thing they will find really costly in dealing with this technology.
Everything you see I purchased in this thread others will have to purchase too if they truly wish to get this technology up and running. But as of yet I haven't seen folks move to purchase these must have items but only make excuses as to why they feel they do not need to purchase these must have items. As a result I feel only a hand full of people in this world are actually willing to do whatever it takes to get this technology up and running as I am to the point of moving towards mass production with this technology.


Meyer told many a lie that would allow him and him alone to be the only one that knew how to get this technology working properly as using materials off the shelf is just a lie to make folks think this technology is cheap to make and implement into todays existing fossil fuel driven technologies. Not even his twin brother seems to be aware of just how to get this technology up and running properly as Meyer didn't know about the science I posted in this thread so how could he teach it to his brother? Trust me I am fully aware that me saying such things triggers people to treat me poorly as these people just aren't smart enough to be able to asked the right questions let alone answer them. Why people never want to make use of the scientific method is due to the scientific method is just a very slow process of elimination that will require years of their time to get answers to any and all questions they ask about this technology. You see it took me over ten years to get at the science behind this technology and even more years to learn how to go about building everything properly as I started working on this technology in March of 2006.


So, if you wish to talk about the "Joe Cell" you should do so in your own thread as this thread is geared towards sharing the science behind Meyer's technology. For reasons unknown to me I am not allowed to filter out such irrelevant talks about other technologies outside of the voltage dissociation of the water molecules from this thread. For if you do understand the "SCIENCE" behind the Joe Cell technology I'd like to read about what you have to say but not in my thread that is aimed at sharing the science behind this water for fuel technology that makes use of voltage to break the bonds of the water molecules. You see I have a working theory on how the Joe Cell actually works scientifically but I'm just not interested in that technology enough to want to pursue it which is to actually say I'm not willing to spend money on it. I am being honest in saying I would like to hear what you have to say about the science behind the Joe Cell technology but not here on my thread. Don't be a chicken poop and put out what you are willing to share in your own thread showing what you figured out with scientific examples and proofs that show you do in fact understand that technology. But as of right now it's just words as you haven't shown anything that backs up your claims.



In any event I have chosen to put this water for fuel technology out and it will be as Meyer spoke about in that the cheapest technology will win out in the end. So, your Joe Cell is in direct competition with my efforts to bring this technology into the marketplace so may the cheapest technology win!


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions
https://gofund.me/94431e56

[h20power]

Mr. h20power,

You never explained how flowing water makes spark?? in Lord Kelvin's water dropper experiment.
just tell me WHY flowing water makes spark? simple question. 

There are no meters made for scalar, cold electricity or radiant energy. Its not about $$, they just don't make such a thing.

It worked in Meyer's favor to complicate and make it expensive to replicate, it's called "misdirection".

To build a Cell is cheap, and you can use it to manufacture your own oil for pennies a day if you want.
If this FE thing is a competition, we ALL lost to Joe over 30 years ago!!! sorry. 

-wlw

ps. I am certain u will have the last word here, time for me to jump ship! the wind has left my sails..
Cheers

I know how all that works but I simply will not talk about it in my thread, understood? Make your own thread and then we can talk about what I think I know about that technology. But this thread is for this type of water dissociation using high voltage potential differences like a thunderstorm does, as this technology is an electronic way to mimic the earth's Global Electric Circuit. That quick answer didn't come easy as it took me quite a few years to get at the core science behind this technology.


As for the Lord Kelvin experiment I'd like to perform more experiments on it as the questions I have are very different than those video lectures on the technology that are shown on YouTube as I think it does something else but they simply aren't testing for it. But again that's my ideas and I'd not post anything here about that for people are quick to steal an unpublished idea pawning it off as their own.


What Meyer did wasn't merely misdirection but patent protection so that no one would steal his work. As never forget he was a business man following the rules of this capitalist system we are all trapped in right now.
As for the winds leaving your sails make your own thread and see in reality if those winds have actually done so as to just talk about it means nothing as you actually have to put up your sails first to find out, IE, make your own thread.


Shalom,
Edward Mitchell
Owner
True Green Solutions
https://gofund.me/94431e56

[d3x0r]

I don't really understand how the diode affects the circuit... and would appreciate some explanation.
A diode doesn't COMPLETELY block current, but rather it has a capacitance which will build up a charge (very quickly, it's not a very big capacitance) and then the current will reflect back down the coil (no?).


In one sense - if the inductances are low, then you'll end up just pulse- charging DC plates with voltage... and then can just go back to DC?  But the idea is that this is pulsed across the water cell using the cell as a capacitor; and even using the water itself to distribute the charge rather than layers of plates.  But that transformer is on a ferrite core, so that inductance is pretty high, and going to be fighting against other coils too... so does the diode effectively choke it? And then isn't it really just DC? And barely even pulsed?  Since the multiple pulses are just going to charge the plate, have a long off time to let that dissipate across the water?


I've seen this work; but haven't really been that impressed with the analysis of the circuit, what are the water frequencies (oh I see they're noted on the patent) how fast is thee inner charge?  How long is the overall gate frequency?  I guess that's noted too; still would be nice to see it confirmed in a working setup.
I guess the frequency part needed for a 4 cylinder engine is (? 6000RPM 100RPS 400Hz per cylinder?)


What ever happened to that iron d max guy?  I know life happened. 
Is there another shop one can buy the circuits pre-fab?  Can we instead make a reasonable facsimile using an arduino or pi or something?


edit: too bad things change; the links at the start of this thread no longer work; but I see many have been at this a while.

[alan]

I don't really understand how the diode affects the circuit... and would appreciate some explanation.
A diode doesn't COMPLETELY block current, but rather it has a capacitance which will build up a charge (very quickly, it's not a very big capacitance) and then the current will reflect back down the coil (no?).


In one sense - if the inductances are low, then you'll end up just pulse- charging DC plates with voltage... and then can just go back to DC?  But the idea is that this is pulsed across the water cell using the cell as a capacitor; and even using the water itself to distribute the charge rather than layers of plates.  But that transformer is on a ferrite core, so that inductance is pretty high, and going to be fighting against other coils too... so does the diode effectively choke it? And then isn't it really just DC? And barely even pulsed?  Since the multiple pulses are just going to charge the plate, have a long off time to let that dissipate across the water?


I've seen this work; but haven't really been that impressed with the analysis of the circuit, what are the water frequencies (oh I see they're noted on the patent) how fast is thee inner charge?  How long is the overall gate frequency?  I guess that's noted too; still would be nice to see it confirmed in a working setup.
I guess the frequency part needed for a 4 cylinder engine is (? 6000RPM 100RPS 400Hz per cylinder?)


What ever happened to that iron d max guy?  I know life happened. 
Is there another shop one can buy the circuits pre-fab?  Can we instead make a reasonable facsimile using an arduino or pi or something?


edit: too bad things change; the links at the start of this thread no longer work; but I see many have been at this a while.

What is resonance? When a combination of reactive elements ripple when it is pulsed by a single pulse, that is called self-oscillation. When it is fed pulses (or AC) at this frequency, it resonates and the amplitude grows larger each pulse. 
But a diode prevents ripples and oscillation through a closed loop because those are AC, bidirectional current. We do want everything to be unidirectional, so what is resonance in the VIC+WFC system? How does the LC resonant frequency relate to DC pulses when it can't oscillate back and forth? I think there is no relationship, I think the key is in the VIC, the function is creating HV pulses while current is choked off when it tends to flow, through self AND mutual induction which Meyer labels as Rp, normally those are magnetic losses, in a way this loss must be high so current is impeded, and the common core causes Faraday's law to create a voltage anyway as an output coil. Both choke coils are equal and opposite, partnered. This is I think the famous asymmetric regauging of the potential. 

High resistance without voltage drop. If the chokes are made from resistive wire, the resistance converts current to heat while the same voltage is created through Faraday's law, the VIC must absorb all power, the WFC can't absorb power, the coil assembly is a current limiter, the water is exposed to the  electric fields only (to strip away electrons), how does this relate to capacitance and freq? dunno yet. Freq must be faster than self-discharge and/or self-charging  by the liberated electrons, so that, or any movement in the water may be the AC equivalence. 

H20power, I know you won't agree, please only address and correct specific points.