Characteristics of HHO under pressure

[Spewing]

A question was ask and answered. When i realized That it was not known how dangerous a container could be when not ruptureable  i quickly brought attention to it.

I stated that i Played with hydroxy as high as 60 PSI, it was a very smart thing for me to do stating that i didn't use Fuel cells that would not rupture under explosion. Have you any ideal of a Pipe Bomb, Perhaps you should do some research on what exactly I'm pointing out here.

When i post my new fuel cell i don't want any of the guy's here getting the wrong ideal. My Reply was mostly in concern to those that may have got the ideal that i used a type of fuel cell that doesn't easily damage, Not true. Those that doesn't damage can be deadly.

I didn't realize how much you admired me, Thanks Bro. 

[CrazyEwok]

well the origanal question remains un-answered with anything but someone's opinion of "un-acceptable". the idea of combining the HHO with another element is a good idea but i think it may be difficult to establish a small refining machine that would convert the HHO on board and on-demand. Still the idea on a larger scale simply having refining stations running on a bio-power to produce HHO to combine into this "Green" fuel would be an almost acceptable solution if you could get it to work as its just an extra pump at the servo then really...

[Spewing]

Has anyone pressurized HHO yet? Besides in a Cylinder... are their any adverse effects (sparkless combustion). I'm looking at having a small pressurized system (approx 30psi) and wanted to know if anyone had experience with this.

Yes, I have Pressurized HHO. See the second post of this thread. No, There is not any Sparkless combustion on such a low scale of 30 Psi. In order to cause a sparkles combustion you would have to pressurize the gas rapidly, to the point where change in pressure causes the gas to become heated enough to ignite. You want be going from 0 to 30 psi in the millisecond range. If you where to do so then the rapid change in pressure could cause ignition. I do not think you need to be worried about that since your fuel cell want do 0 to 30 psi in the millisecond range. It is not the pressure that causes ignition, it is the speed of the pressure that heats the gas. For example an Diesel engine will Compress the gas rapidly causing the ambient air to become very hot, hot enough to ignite the diesel.  same with an petrol engine helping the gasoline to remain warm before ignition. 

You can Fill an ordinary air tank up to 100 psi and pull the plug causing the ambient are to rapidly rush out. This change in pressure results in Liquid oxygen and it also freezes, do not attempt to touch it as it exits the tank because its like freon giving you a burn. As the ambient air is pumped into the Compressor the small feed line which supplies the tank with air coming from the air piston can burn you. This is also because of rapid change in pressure. You take any gas and Pressurize it rapidly and it will become hot, if the mix is explosive such as hydroxy then it would ignite. The ice engine does not cause the hydroxy to ignite due to compression, we have to have a spark. We learn from this that 0 to 120 psi is not rapid enough to cause auto ignition. So to cause Sparkless combustion you'd have to olmost have to do it purposely.

To gain Liquid hydroxy, you fill your container up to about 30, or more PSI. Then you pull the plug letting the gas rapidly out. You'll see an white cloud of gas and it will be cold to the touch. You've just converted hydroxy to an liquid. Engines love that

Back when i used additives, I went from 0 to 30 psi in about 8 seconds, Theres clearly no danger in it.

Did i answer your question?

[CrazyEwok]

Thanks Spewing.
So its the general rules then... Increasing pressure add to the temp and release lowers it... So then a small re-inforced resivour would be perfect... To the "un-acceptables" stop reading as this has hit the "edge" of your thinking box... To everyone else... It is logically impossible to have a fuel source convert fuel on a re-active "need" basis... In other words to accelerate you first need the fuel there and then the electrolyzer replaces it. So you need a "resivour" that can hold enough fuel to bridge the gap between conversion and use. Thinking of a storage area about the size of a standard cool drink can (not an actual cool drink can but around the 500ml size) this pressurized with a determined amount of HHO inline with your delivery system. Reason would be you now have a small pool to keep up you delivery of fuel till your converter can replace it. This could also be your production scale "switch" as the pressure in your tank goes down you can have signals go to the electrolyzer to up production (you could have pre-determined efficient levels of production that would switch on and off to keep the resivour full). This all is a little bit out there for some but none the less... i have this as an idea as people are driving their cars with the fuel input reduced and using the HHO as a suppliment. But if your idling at the lights then go to accellerate your still have the same amount of petrol per cycle but less HHO per cycle so your overall fuel per cycle is down can't be good to reduce fuel per cycle when your wanting power...

[Justalabrat]

HHO pressurized to 30 psi.

http://tinyurl.com/lhaq5o



Same guy about 6 weeks earlier with his HHO generator hooked to a 3 gallon auxiliary tank.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUwqBhABqpo

At the end of the video he says:
"setting here in my office with me, this is perfectly safe"

I think he should go back and label all of his videos that are using pressized HHO and say how very dangerous it is, DON'T DO IT!