Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[Giga]

my video reivew of mylows last video uploaded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6_foXzRP_M

[Grimer]

@dixiepnum

See below for more on builders.

@jibbguy

Yep. Someone finally gets it.

@ CLaNZeR

Do you know the pull force of your rotors?

@Paul-R

Don't worry. I now have moderator status on Mylow magnet motor and I will use it without hesitation. No questions asked.

I willbe opening a new discussion thread b ut since this one has everything from the beginning, I will be doing some thread clean-up to remove some blah blah so new comers will not have to deal with all the noise. No questions asked.

To BUILDERS, I think it would also be good if each of you opened a new thread from here
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?board=117.0
with a simple title starting with MylowHJ Replication and then your user name. Example: MylowHJ Replication - wattsup. This way each member that is building can post their build specs, photos, observations and results in one location and not spread everything out on this or another long thread. The builders threads should not be used by other members unless it is very pertinent but keep it to a minimum since those spaces belong to the builder.

Guys that are doing the component measurements can open a new thread called MylowHJ Replication - Measurements so they can all be in the same place.

I will open a new thread called MylowHJ Replication - Discussion were we can all convene and talk about replications but use your own threads to post your pictures so they all stay in one spot and become useful to new members looking to work on this.

Smart remarks will be removed, no questions asked.

I hope this will help resolve some of the noise here and most importantly I sincerely hope this will entice other members to come forward with their own builds because some have sent me direct e-mails and I have told them to please come to the thread, but their reasons for staying away are obvious.

People see and believe what they want. In my book, without sounding insulting, Mylow is not sophisticated enough to do all the fancy fak'in some here are salivating over. You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. Others have confirmed there is no tape splicing but who listens. Anyways let's keep the goal in view.

Good for you. I shall follow the thread with interest and paste any relevant comments on this thread to keep yours for the builders. Be ruthless in zapping idiots. 

[Chase212327]

I dumped this web page to a spreadsheet, and converted all the values to millimeters, and also calculated the pole widths.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#alnico-magnets/=1awtf9

I compared the relative sizes to the Sizing and Spacing equations and tables that I've posted earlier.

Nearly all of them are much too large, in one way or another. 

The one exception is Part# 5841K12, which is a possible candidate as a stator (to be ideally paired along with a 10.2mm wide rotor):

Total Stator Width: 27.0mm
Stator Pole Width: 6.4mm
Stator Opening: 14.3mm
Though, it's only 3/4" thick (vs about 1" for Mylow's).

Chase212327


--- In mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com, "Sterling D. Allan" <sterlingda@...> wrote:
>
> Have to set up an account with them to order.
>
> Very good customer service. Have always been in stock. They ship via next day service.
>
> Not cheapest, but reliable.
>
> ~$10 each
>
> added to http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:MYLOW:Plans#Magnets_.28Overview.29
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Andy Graham
> To: sterling ; Self
> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 9:04 AM
> Subject: FOUND: Mylow Motor Magnet Source
>
>
> Sterling,
>
> Eureka! I found a source for the magnets in the Mylow Motor. Both
horshoe and what's called a 'Bridge' magnet for the rotor. They are even poled
correctly from the getgo:
>
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#alnico-magnets/=1asumx
>
> Please update your open source page with this above link. Let's get this thing being reproduced and youtubed as fast as possible.
>
> -Andy
>

[sterlinga]

Pmmtester just phoned me with a report of some of the negativity that is brewing over at OverUnity.com

I've not been following it because I've been preparing an instruction manual on how to build this motor.

Here are my comments on the observations that you've noted.

The data:
- the motor accelerates at first
- then the motor gradually decelerates to the end of the video

In my opinion, these are both easily explained.

The acceleration is something we've seen in other videos he's posted.  It happens when he first starts the motor.  That motor accelerates until it reaches an equilibrium point (most likely a function of the eddy currents that the passing magnets create in the aluminum which results in a braking effect).

The deceleration is a function of
1) the gradual demagnetization of the stator magnet.
2) possibly the vibrations from movement are causing the rotor-stator distance to increase

Option 1 is most likely.

Last night when Mylow was talking to Pmmtester on the phone, he commented that even these new stator magnets seem to be losing their magnetism.  They are not holding constant.

This is an expected effect, given
1) the eddy current stress on the magnets
2) the cold temperature phenomenon that is doing who-knows-what to the magnet.

As for the sounds that can be heard during the video, I've run through this video probably 25-50 times as I've been preparing the manual.  I think it's really cool.  The background sounds, as far as I can tell, are consistent with typical noises of the city: neighbors talking, television, vehicles driving by.  They have nothing to do with trick devices embedded in the set-up enabling it to work.  Mylow lives in an apartment.  He has neighbors.  Vehicles drive by.  I didn't think any of the noises sounded like anything other than what might be expected naturally.

Also, I've heard that Paul Lowrance and Stefan Hartmann are considering posting some information about Mylow's identity.

Please don't.

That would a very bad precedent.

How do you expect any inventor to want to use the OverUnity forum if you're going to pull stuff like that.

Already, some of your behavior toward Mylow has been deplorable in terms of the negative, personal attacks about motive, etc.

You guys need to grow up and keep your comments scientific rather than personal.

Everyone -- including all of you at OverUnity -- has personal quirks.  Mylow is no exception.  Jumping on personal quirks creates bad karma and is bound to come back and bite you.

While there are a lot of great things you guys contribute to the open source process, the personal negativity is extremely difficult for anyone.  I'm sure you've been on the receiving end, and can relate to that.  So why are you dishing it out?

I'm looking forward to a faithful replication.  It's a very simple design.  I've not seen a replication yet that comes adequately close to what Mylow has presented.

We're working on one, and will hopefully have it ready this week.

Sterling

[Michelinho]

Mylow's lawyer brings MIB guy who takes his motor and papers!!!!!!

Mylow's lawyer brought an unidentified, intimidating man with him last night, taking his motor, all his papers, leaving him with a note of warning -- only to return the items this morning.  Mylow defiantly posts another video, calling it his last.

http://pesn.com/2009/04/03/9501537_Mylow-threatened_told_to_stop/

Take care,

Michel