Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[libra_spirit]

My personal feelings:

I have stopped by the overunity site many times, and also posted data and findings.
One reason I do not stay long is the high number of posts to read through that do not contain useful "information" about the actual devices.

A great majority seem to be posted by people commenting on peoples motives and speculating rather then actually studying effects and doing experiments.

I would consider this "emotional process" better placed on another site dealing with the suspcious nature of humans, and how it stiffels the creative spirit. Why would anyone making a discovery on here ever be motivated to share it? Especially knowing that many others would simply spend considerable energy attacking them personally and looking for how they are cheating rather then testing the concepts and models offered.

Even if you have a charlaton, what is gained by attacking them personally? Study the device and let the results be the proof. Leave the motives for the person to deal with.

This site is about "mind" overcomming the basics of self sustaining energy loops, as found in the atoms to be very real. It is about comprehension.

If you view this site as a "competitive race" where someone looses and someone wins, then we all loose.
If you view this site as a sharing of information, so nothing is lost, and effort is not duplicated by each person, it can become synergetic.

If mankind is to pull together and accomplish great things, we need to lift this shroud of emotional personal attack.

Serious experimenters will go other places where they don't have to deal with your emotional problems of who is going to be king of the ant hill. We are all equals and all deserve to be heard if we offer experimental observations that appear to work for us.

Not everyone can express themselves as a scientist, many come from the heart level. Many build from the heart level. Often these percieving from the heart level can find things we scientists miss. The fact we cannot explain them is frustrating.

Subject matter Question:

I have no desire to read through the several thousand posts on this thread, but would like to add some parameters about diamagnetic interaction you all may not be familiar with.

Has anyone here yet experimented with an Aluminum disc of 17.5" by 1/4" thick?

I believe this may have a bearing on why the machine of Mylows may actually work.

Also the magnetic layout is absolutly incredible from a diamagnetic standpoint of curving mangetic fields.
In the toroidal coil there is an "A" field intersecting the center. By cutting out half the ring you now have an "A" field that passes through the center and becomes reversed much like a lens will flip the image of light in a camera.

Mylows center magnet curves this field outwards, and the outer magnets curve this field inwards to the center. This is the field that normally radiates 90 degrees off the blotch wall of magnets. Curving it like this sets up a concentration on one side and an expansion on the other side.

If the magnet in this form actually flips the "A" field to a reversed effect at a certain distance, then this will fully explain how an Aluminum disc that should be recieving drag actually get a little push instead.

Ok, I have offered a scientific reason now for further investigation, what will you all do with this information?
You may want to study up on the "A" field and see what it is. Best guess.

The magnetic field near aluminum discs is very similiar to another device you all may be familiar with, the Hamel Cones. If you want to test this, research David Hamel. His cones vibrated up using rings of magnets on Aluminum.

I believe to have this actually work the diameter of the cones or rings is criticle to sucess. There will be standing diamagnetic rings forming on the aluminum disc similiar to a Joe Cell geometry. I  recommend any serious in testing Mylows work, attempt to at least get this part accurate before claimimg it does not work.

I can only imagine Mylows frustration with this site, and sincerely hope he realizes there are experimenters out there taking this particular discovery very seriously. It has all the correct elements present to do something that is a common thread in many devices showing the "vibration" effect is very real.

I would also add that 1/4" is the minimum thickness to get a Joe Cell water effect. Anything between 1/4" and 1/2" will give a strong vibrational spin effect drawing in torsion field energy, if things are set up right. Using less thickness, down around 1/16" will not give this torsion field effect at all. If it is in fact the meat of the aluminum driving the wheels torsion force, this would be a criticle thing to duplicate.

Dave L

[joe_1001101]

Thanks Joe,

   
The original video files could allow a more rigorous analysis by reducing the errors due to processing video. The video # 41b (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocZ6y0o3Nkk) seemed the best candidate for the analysis due to the fixed position of the camera and the duration of the motor running on a continuous basis. The first analysis (http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7039.msg168844#msg168844) is based on optical recognition of the position of the magnets (motion detector / light) recorded from the video on youtube. The data thus obtained is probably very close to youtube video. But it is more likely that this video analyzed is degraded compared to the original video (the video file directly from the camera Mylow). Despite the possible degradation of the video questions remain.

Why there seems to have decelerations?
Why decelerations appears to be composed of a constant succession of samples, each of them slower than the one before (in a degraded video)?
Why, it seems, there is not a place in the video #41b where the velocity is really constant?
Why amplitude between the deceleration and acceleration of a single test seems to be so great ?
What are the possible factors that would created these amplitudes and... seem to consist of several data consistent with these variations?
Why 1 / 3 of the video appears to be a phase of deceleration?

LightRider

LightRider,

Maybe you could do another analysis, but on video #6, around 9:11 to 9:15?

Thanks.  I have seen so many scams, it makes me leery of any new claim. Especially in the case of only videos as proof.

Nothing against Mylow.  I hope he would feel the same way about this stuff.  I can post many scam videos if you like!  I have a really good one about a spinning magnet.

Thanks.
Joe

[LightRider]

To All,

Can someone confirm or refute a hypothesis?

A strange coincidence has just made its appearance.

Analysis of sound of the video #41b appears to show some abnormal sound which seems to repeat itself.
(turn the sound up to maximum)

a kind of click repetition at approximately:
0:00 to 0:20
0:50 to 1:20
1:55 to 2:20
2:55 to 3:20
3:55 to 4:20

BUT... what is really strange is to compare this data result (timing of the sound) with periods of acceleration of this motor found in the graphic analysis...

Acceleration in graph at approximately:
0:00 to 0:15
0:55 to 1:29
1:50 to 2:06 (2:06 to 2:33 close to constant speed)
3:03 to 3:25
4:15 to 4:31 (4:31 to 4:52 close to constant speed)


The sound seems to occur at the same time that the acceleration in the graph analysis occur.
And during deceleration it does not seem to have this sound...


Please see for yourself and comment.

Data source...
video # 41b at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocZ6y0o3Nkk
Analysis at:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7039.msg168844#msg168844
(I will re-post of the graphic analysis with a better view on the time scale) => http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7039.msg171091#msg171091

[LightRider]

Re-post of the graphic analysis (video #41b) with a better view on the time scale.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocZ6y0o3Nkk
Thanks,
LightRider

Edit: post of the strange sound on a graphic (video #41b) with a view on the time scale for comparison.
Edit2: (in attachment) the strange sound sample to look for in this video #41b (mp3). This sound is heard in several place in the video and lasts an average of 30 sec.
(This sample is only a few seconds of this sound so that you can recognize it)

[queue]

My personal feelings:

Has anyone here yet experimented with an Aluminum disc of 17.5" by 1/4" thick?

I believe this may have a bearing on why the machine of Mylows may actually work

Good post David .. thanks
You are correct - this site can be a real animal house sometimes. A new moderator has helped a bit so we'll have to see how that works out.

In reply to your question - my disk is 18 inch diameter 1/4 inch aluminum and i have spent many hours trying to replicate the Mylow effect.
See my vids .. user QueueContinuum @ Youtube.

With very little useful technical info it's difficult to replicate Mylow's motor.  Best us replicators can do at this point is try to copy what we see . spacing etc etc. Up until now i have continued my tests based on pure faith that it is all true and that i might also stumble upon the solution but i will soon wind down my tests as others already have. Without useful measurements and specs it's all a guessing game.

With some accurate measurements provided it should be easy to replicate this effect or at least create some physical manifestation that validates it's existence.

If it's a hoax .. what a colossal waste of time ..
i really don't understand/never have .. the sick psychology of mind that wants to perpetrate such a thing ..

Go to hell .. do not pass GO

Q