Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[zapnic]

The only way to find out if it is real is to build it yourself.

What have you got to lose? 

Building one and discussing that might be good idea ...Mylow does not need to say or do anything as he has already done enough to get the yapping terriers of doubt  from under their couches.

My only question is about the eddy currents from the lamp.

I hope that somebody who is building one might answer that one.

There is no burden of proof required unless of course you have bought one from him.

There is enough info to build one and a few are doing that. So good luck to them and thank you Mylow!

One question to those who assume it is a hoax. What if you are wrong?

Are you a part of the solution or a part of the problem?

Therefore why even bother yapping?

Perhaps your effort might be better directed towards encouraging the builders. But then you would not receive the negative attention that you obviously know that you deserve.

Well done pooches!

hello mannix
he he eddy currents+ tpu =power? 
just guessing
bye

[sterlinga]

From: Sterling D. Allan
To: Stefan Hartmann
Cc: Mylow Howard Johnson Motor egroup
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 1:33 AM
Subject: Overunity allows over the top rude


Stefan,

As you know, inventors have their quirks.

But in Mylow we've had one of the most giving people we've ever come across.

One of his quirks has been an overly sensitive nature when it comes to skepticism and threats.

Now, due to all the negative comments at YouTube, he's deleted all but one of his videos, and one the one video, he's posted a comment superimposed over the video, directed to OverUnity.com -- your website.

Tonight in my phone conversation with him, he said he was going to post a bunch more videos, including one showing his remagnetizer, one on the glass table, and one showing it running out on the sidewalk in front of his apartment, etc.

But now with all the trash (crass negativism) you allow on your site, we'll be lucky if we get any more videos.

The next thing we'll see may be on national/international television.

Yes, he'll be vindicated, but the open source process will not have been served very well.

I recommend that you  put a tighter reign on your moderating, to create a more gentle environment for sensitive inventors.

Sterling D. Allan

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From: Sterling D. Allan
To: Mylow
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 1:29 AM
Subject: rude Overunity


Hi Mylow,

I agree that OverUnity has been too rude.

However, the problem is that your response to them tonight via your one remaining video annotation was also very rude.  You say "f yourself" several times, which is one of the most rude personal attacks that can be leveled.

The reason I point this out is to show you how easy it is to go to that level.  You've done it yourself.  I do it myself.

I point this out not to get on your case, but to beseech of you to have more patience with rudeness in others.

You need to forgive, not get even.  As Jesus said, "forgive, that you may be forgiven."

Seek the higher path.  You keep doing that -- the higher path.  Do it again.

Ignore the negativism, as you've been learning to ignore the bullying.

Don't let the negativism stop the progress of this very important work.

Post more videos,  Prove the skeptics wrong via more videos.

I recommend removing that negative statement on the one remaining video, and just plow forward with more videos like you were going to do.

Keep up the great work.  You're awesome.

Sterling

[joe_1001101]

Harti,

I saw a film about how magicians do some of their illusions.  For example, there was a very large box with light-weight skeleton and paper sides.  It was mounted on chairs.  Volunteers than came up to the box and easily lifted it off the chairs and carefully placed the fragile box on the asphalt.  They then stepped away from the box and a few seconds later a convertible car drove out of this paper box with a nice girl driving it.  Unfortunately, they did not reveal the trick how this illusion was done.

The next trick was a open table and the camera showed all sides, the top, and underneath.  Above the table was a large circular saw.  The magician used the saw to cut a thick piece of wood in half.  Then a lady laid down on the table.  He proceeded to saw through her dress and he cut her in half.  When she got up, you could see the rip in her dress.  The camera showed the table again and nothing unusual.

They then explained how this illusion was done and I must say it was very clever.

Whether watching this on video or even in person in the audience, you would be convinced that the poor woman was cut in half.

What this shows is that you can not trust your eyes.  Anyone who thinks that videos from Mylow or anyone else can prove or disprove something are allowing themselves to be fooled.

Only the physical, hands-on presence of qualified specialists with sufficient time to make valid measurements would be in a position to prove or disprove Mylow's (or Mister XYZ's) claims.

Until this is done, Mylow has shown nothing, done nothing.  There is no way to "go around" the scientific method and remain credible.

His purported discovery must be examined and be reproduced, videos are worth nothing, even passively watching it in Chicago has no value.

If I was a magician, I would fabricate two bearing assemblies.  One I would show on camera to prove that there is no motor or battery inside.  The other one would look identical on the outside, but be totally different on the inside where it would have a small motor and battery.  There are no eyes to see which one I am using.  Even with a visiting Engineer, it only takes a short distraction to exchange the bearing, just shown, with a different one.

Without a thorough examination of this device, everything said here or on Utube is just hot air.  Without the utilization of the scientific method, all discussions are a waste of time.  Until now, I see no inclination of Mylow to follow the scientific method, even though it would have been easy for him.  Of course, he is free to do as he pleases.

The last two videos are sufficient to extract the physical measurements of all element placements and sizes.  If you have $500 to $1000 dollars and some time, by all means try to replicate.  At the most you will be deceived and at the least you will have fun and learn something.  If this would strain your budget and your family suffers, don't try it.

Sterling would have taken a hotel and stayed long enough in Chicago for Mylow to have shown him his motor.  But no, not even Sterling may see the motor or the magnets that Sterling paid for and sent overnight.
Mylow throws in the towel, but he doesn't send the device to Sterling or Harti.  Sending the large, heavy disk along with all the heavy steel magnets from Chicago to Utah is a LOT LESS expensive than sending it to Germany, which will cost serious money and customs duties and taxes on top.  Is Mylow even telling the truth about sending it away?  Looking back at this saga, one has to ask how to spell the word bizarre?

Harti, do you remember the student prank with the electrodes in a glass of water that started to froth and boil strongly at a certain frequency?  You got very excited by that video.  Do you and everyone else understand that videos are worthless?  The student did it because he got frustrated at being unable to achieve OU.  Two OU.com members got frustrated and made fakes.  Remember you found one of them by inspecting your server IP-nr logs?  The other confessed.  So maybe after 30 years of frustration, Mylow also gave into temptation and made very clever fakes   Only the scientific method will tell.

My 2 cents.

Regards, Earl

Is everyone blind?

Please read this again.

Thanks,
Joe

[joe_1001101]

Oh no you're 'attacking' Mylow

LOL... This whole thing is a joke!  IMO......  Amazing how anyone might believe the Biden story?



Joe

[Cloxxki]

No machine in the world, OU or UU, will even be able to win back the lost energy from these supposedly grown men on an internet forum.
Folks like me cannot help but watch this puppet show.

As nice as MYlow's work seems to be, for now all I've seen is machines that use rotation of an aluminum disc to discharge harmless magnets. An accomplishment by itself, but I've seen bigger things over the past weeks of exploring the OU world.

One thing I must say (can't ever help to be the devil's advocate), I agree with nyctuber that OU devices should be DOING something. Rotation on smooth bearings...fascinating meter readings...none can substitube a wheel grinding flour. Or a wheel splashing the water in a can. Or a coveyor belt lifting sand and random articles, to drop them rather then take them back down again.  The sort of work we first used horses an oxes for, then slaves, and then externally powered machines.

Mr. Reed seems to be closer to a meaningful use. I'd rather see a series of 100% OU circuits all running on one battery rather than one 387% OU digitally confirmed one.
Heck, one of his piston rotary engines hooked up to an OU circuit and ever so tiny battery, that would impress me greatly.

Builders should be prepared for scepticism, but sceptics should be able to be supportive even if they're sceptic. It's a win-win situation. If builders fail, you told them so. If they succeed, you contributed.
I'm a rookie in magnetics and electronics, but I'll auto-didact to the point where I can contribute. To speak with Mr. Reed's words "that what I do".