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Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: lumen on May 05, 2009, 07:33:35 PM
So you would think, but the stator field never reaches the aluminum plate because the field is repelled or attracted by the rotor magnets before it reaches the plate.
(snip)

Not true, and I can prove it, instrumentally, with real data, as many times as you like. In fact I already have. But I'm sure you don't care or will resort to special pleading--my magnets aren't exactly like his, I live north of the border, today is Tuesday.
A stator magnet, positioned as nearly like Mylow's as I can judge it, with a bunch of unkeepered rotor magnets on the disk in whatever configuration you like, causes about 40 percent DECREASE in rundown time. The same stator magnet in the same position with the keepers on the rotor magnets, almost totally shielding their B fields, causes almost the identical 40 percent DECREASE  in rundown times. The conclusion is hard to avoid: In every configuration I have tested, and I have tested many, the mere presence of the stator magnet adds significant DRAG, presumably from induced eddy currents in the aluminum disk turning beneath it.

tournamentdan

Quote from: lumen on May 05, 2009, 07:33:35 PM
So you would think, but the stator field never reaches the aluminum plate because the field is repelled or attracted by the rotor magnets before it reaches the plate.
Except for the pole of the rotor magnets resting on the plate which passes through the plate. Funny how again this is the field that is delayed or affected by the plate. This is only affected during the rapid change caused by the short distance in the stator magnet poles.

The field is then reset through the aluminum plate by the rotor magnets when they are far from the stator or approaching or leaving.
I am sorry but you are wrong again. I would like you to look at a picture of the plate. Do you see the two large spaces in between the groups of rotor magnets. that is where the brake will take affect. back in your court now
I'll see your theory, and raise you mine!!!

tournamentdan

I'll see your theory, and raise you mine!!!

X00013

@ TK, we are waiting for your vid of the bar magnet motor!

lumen

Hey, that's not fair ganging up...... Real data? My real data shows if you place a coil on the face of a large neo magnet and bring another magnet close, you see no output. Why is the field not there? Because it is held away by the current field. If you move the magnet close enough where the coil is now closer to the approaching magnet, then you will see a change on the scope.

I do realize that some stray fields will reach the aluminum plate in the mylow case, but the idea is to have the plate delay the fields in the direction that reinforces the rotation.

The gaps between the magnets should be where the under lying field is pushed to and is the only spot where any gain could take place. The rows of magnets only appear as a single long magnet pole and is naturally attracted to one end like a SMOT device.