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Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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hansvonlieven

Quote from: X00013 on May 10, 2009, 06:18:09 PM
Unicorns work best :)

Unicorn being defined as a single corn on your foot?   ;D ;D

Hans
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx



Rosphere

Quote from: Rosphere on April 18, 2009, 05:39:14 PM
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If I allow two magnets to naturally attract to one another, with a N-S at one side and a S-N at the other, (not simply a N-S face orientation,) and then I twist the two magnets 90 degrees out of alignment with my fingers, I can feel a torque between them wanting to twist them back into the original attraction configuration.  I think this is the simple key to Mylow's device.

He prevents them from torquing back into position by securing them, one in a fixed position, (the stator,) and many on a flat plane allowed to flow past the stator.  Each magnet glued on the plate wants to twist just a little bit to align with the stator magnet and, as a result, it ends-up moving the plate just a little bit, bringing the next magnet into a position to want to twist.  But none of them can twist because of the orientation of the plate, so each magnet moves the plate just a little bit and then they all add-up to a rotation of the plate.  Simple.
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Expanding upon this torque concept: I feel that Mylow's, "bearing at the bottom of a tall shaft," design is critical to the success of any replication.

This torque, or twisting force, at each rotor magnet acts in a narrow arc on the outer edge of the disc.  Placing your bearing on, or near, the plane of the disc eliminates one of Mylow's design characteristics: His design introduces a, "vertical radial arm component," with his bearing located well below the plane of his rotor--which can enhance the torque using the vertical plane to help spin the rotor.

So, any rotor magnet torque reaction will twist his assembly along an axis from the rotor magnet down, on an angle, to the bearing.  Together, all of the rotor magnet torque axis appear to be lines on the surface of an inverted cone shape.

We have all seen the vortex energy flow models.  Placing his rotor's bearing point well below the rotor may be creating a focal point for a magnetic vortex energy flow pattern involving the earth below.

wattsup

@queue

Thanks for the CB002200. I was on that page the day before and saw it was the only close one but still I think it is too small compared to Mylows. That site has a "ask for a quote" feature for standard or special sizes. I will try to ask them for a quote on 1/2" x 1/2" x 2" and 3/8" x 3/8" x 2" and see what they come back with in terms of costing. Ouch.

@Rosphere

Hallelujah........ you know. I had just finished this post yesterday but left to do the Mother's Day rounds then saw your post this morning, so may as well post it anyways.

@all

Guys, there is definitely a difference between a wheel turning on a fixed center axle shaft or a wheel turning on the end of an extended cylinder that has some good weight to it.

In the fixed shaft wheel the directionality that the stator/rotor forces can exert are generally forward and backward and the stress to start the turning will be transferred to the center shaft to hold the wheel in place. The center shaft will just be there to keep the wheel steady and may be the main blocking factor to get the Mylwo effect.

A wheel on an extended cylinder that itself has some weight to it can actually store some of the forward or backward thrust given off by the rotor /stator exchange. Also the wheel can pivot somewhat because the bearing position being at the base of the cylinder affords the wheel some leverage so there is some forces being exchanged from the exterior of the wheel to the center base. The stator/rotor can push ever so slightly down on the wheel and push up the other side that will then want to come back down pushing up the stator/rotor side again ever so slightly making more of a gyroscope effect to the wheel created by the stator/rotor.

When you look at an HJ wheel with all those rotors around, you can notice the rotors at the forefront where deep set and the rotors in the background were higher, making like a roller coaster effect. In HJ's build the roller coaster rotor placement is helping the wheel tear away from the stator then move closer to the stator, simulating the gyro but with two fixed planes.

The Mylow  effect is essentially that the wheel is not on an axle. The better the rotor to bearing cylinder ratio of the Mylow effect, the better the sticky spot will "slip". Not by much. You still need to find the spot for the stator. Guys with fixed stator heights will find it harder to find the right spot.

So how did Mylow find the stator position? By ultimately finding the spot by putting it where it is and I would say within 1/4" of vertical and 1/4" of horizontal positioning precision. Meaning what. Meaning if the stator is 1/4" to high or low of a 1/4" to right or left the wheel will not turn. So there is a 1/4" cube space that you need to find. To systematically sweep the area for the best position, if your stator is on a fixed bridge, use 1/8" thick spacers and shim the stator bridge height on each side to raise the vertical then slide the bridge in 1/4" increments to sweep that level. Then add another shim and sweep again until you find the right spot. From Mylows build, we know you should not have to go more then 3 inch high and 3 inches left or right so there would be a maximum of 24 levels with 24 positions to sweep through to do a complete stator positioning.