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Overunity Machines Forum



Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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Yucca

Quote from: mikestocks2006 on May 15, 2009, 02:47:51 PM
Hi folks,
What do think of this test/analysis?
The Force - analysis of Mylow's Magnetic Motor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVyyu0qctYU&feature=channel_page

Thanks
Mike

Wow Mike, bad bews for Mylow. But absolutely incredible work on behalf of youtube user "toukoqouko". I´m VERY impressed with his combining of opensource code to track the rotor with such great resolution. The information he has extracted here is incredible and only possible with software. Also gotta love his Star Wars titles and music including the 8bit retro chip music.

Anyway, Toukoqouko makes a very solid and clear explanation of his video in this youtube comment:
QuotePoints made:
1. Net effect INSIDE the stator area is speed DECREASE
2. Net effect OUTSIDE the stator area is speed INCREASE

If the acceleration occurs "outside the stator magnetic fields", then magnetism (of the stator) isn't the driving force.

If magnetism is the driving force, points 1 and 2 should be opposite.

These points are testable and falsifiable by anyone, unlike the claimed absence of external power sources.

Below is a screen grab showing two revs of the wheel, RPM on vert axis, Wheel angle on horiz. The green vertical line represents the stator mag position. Looks to me like the wheel is experiencing some mysterious external force.

Notice the large half sin wave appearing between the green lines. This half sin consists of deceleration followed by acceleration and occupies almost exactly half a revolution, it is caused by the rig not being flat. Sometimes the rotor mags are climbing a hill, sometimes descending it.

If the stator were removed from the rig then you would get a full sin wave slowly trending upward to an equilibrium speed as it´s mercylessly driven by some mysterious external source. BUSTED!!! :o

If anyone else can explain this speed signiature any differently then I´d love to hear.

TinselKoala

Here is an example of a comparison run I just completed. I'm testing a 3-gate version with 3 u-rotormags in each gate, and a horseshoe stator in one of the many Mylow positions. This gate arrangement works BY HAND as well as or better than many we've seen "working" in the past couple days. So it should show a big gain when tested instrumentally, right? Right...
So I compare runup and rundown between two conditions: First, rotor mags in position, keepers ON, no stator or stator mount--the control condition. Second, stator and mount in position, all keepers off -- the experimental condition. The motor drive power is exactly the same in both cases, and everything else is equal. As you can see, the rpm was still climbing when I shut off the motor in the first case, but in the second case equilibrium rpm was reached fairly quickly==and slowly, if you take my meaning== and the rundown is of course shorter.

TinselKoala

@Yucca and Toukoqouko: Beautiful!!

spinner

@Alfparts
Quote
...approximately sixteen hours at one single stretch while in the same room  - constant equiv load = 25 kgf-m/s

I'm just curious... Why are you so interested in ML's setup when you were working with the master himself? You are one of a few people (I may say the only one) who ever claimed that they saw HJ's motor working for that long....

You surely know that Mr. HJ had always tremendous difficulties whenever he wanted to prove his motors in public.

And, what kind of load was attached? Is "25 kgf-m/s" unit a typo, or means Watts, Newton-meters?....  (maybe "kilogram fucking negative meters per second"?)

I'd like to calculate the energy created in those 16 hours.... (Btw, what were you people doing during those 16 hours? Discussing, playing chess,...? )

Cheers!
"Ex nihilo nihil"

dixiepnum

@queue...

thanks for all the effort and expense bud...

any chance you could summarize how close your build is to mylow's, piece by piece?

weight of disk
size of disk
height of base
weight of base
height of stators
space between stators and rotors
etc?

just hoping to keep the dialogue going with you...

if that's of any help to you!

thks...Dixie