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Overunity Machines Forum



Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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TinselKoala


So if I get a mylow wheel to run for an hour unattended, with no visible source of power,  do I get the prize? I'm fully qualified to vet whatever I build, that's for sure.

How do we tell if it's "50 percent similar" or not? How many percentage points do we deduct, for each one-hundredth of a millimeter that a magnet is out of position?

Do we have to duplicate the acceleration profile that LOOKS like the thing is externally driven, even though ours is only magnet-powered?

I think this script needs a re-write. Sterling's character isn't making any sense at all any more.

Yucca

Quote from: spinner on May 15, 2009, 06:04:57 PM
@Yucca
Nice find, quite according with all the contradictions so far....

I originally used just my eyesight to determine the "unknown accelerating energy". Later on, there were already many usefull analyses of the wheel. When a YingYang wheel was shown, it was rather easy to determine an acceleration again (I used a photodiode on a counter input (directly, no prob), pointed at the YY symbol edges (the dot was to small to collect transitions correctly...))

elegant way to tacho off your screen like that, nice.

Quote from: spinner on May 15, 2009, 06:04:57 PM
So, what do you guys think, where does the acceleration really comes from?
I thought in the beginning, a Small dc motor in the support/axle... Or, a blowing air (from a small compressor)...
Induced EM from other sources? What? Modified old 5 1/4"" drive motor (windings) secured under the table?  ML says he wouldn't know how to fake it... What about his brother?

With enough motivation, I would make any of the aforementioned approaches workable....

Eh, I'd rather see a real working PMM.

Yep, I´d so much like the motor to be real too.

As for concealed drive, Is there a video shown where he dissasembles the bottom extension axle and bearing for inspection and then reassembles and shows it running? If not then two identically machined bottom axle pieces would suffice. One being a stub axle as shown for the disassembly vid. One with a longer reach terminating in a pulley or cog to interface with the inner concealled drive motor gearbox combo and lipo pack.

The yingyang motor could just have a small motor, belt and lipo battery underneath for all we know.

TinselKoala

Quote from: Yucca on May 15, 2009, 06:34:46 PM
elegant way to tacho off your screen like that, nice.

Yep, I´d so much like the motor to be real too.

As for concealed drive, Is there a video shown where he dissasembles the bottom extension axle and bearing for inspection and then reassembles and shows it running?

The yingyang motor could just have a small motor, belt and lipo battery underneath for all we know.
In the Glass Table video, at the beginning he shows the stub axle and it looks like an inert chunk of aluminum. Then, as he's assembling the unit at about 2:00, he fumbles around with his left hand and could be switching out the inert piece for a more active "ringer". There's a brief glimpse of the unit during the walkaround, it looks superficially similar. Then at the end of the video there is some very suspicious action. He stops the disk manually, then KEEPS HOLDING ON TO IT while he removes the stator mount, still HOLDING the disk from moving until he takes it off the stub axle and conveniently blocks the view of the table with the disk. At this point it would be easy for the bird, for example, to replace the ringer with the inert piece.
There is enough room in the stub axle for the components you describe, and the turning of the disk would only draw under 200 milliAmps from, for example, a little hard drive motor and its control electronics. And a 11.4 volt 340 mA-H lipo is only 5 x 3.5 x 2 cm. so would give an hour run, easy. So it's a possibility that has not yet been ruled out, as far as I can tell.
(Oh, that bearing: It will act as a perfect slipping clutch and will allow the disk to accelerate just as shown. Do you really need to ask how I know these things....   :-\  )

spinner

I guess he frequently holds the disk just because of safety reasons...
With all the power produced, the disk could easily get ballistic....
Imagine the magnets flying all over the place... Was that one of the initial problems? I can't remember anymore...
Good Night....

"Ex nihilo nihil"

0c

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 15, 2009, 06:31:31 PM
So if I get a mylow wheel to run for an hour unattended, with no visible source of power,  do I get the prize? I'm fully qualified to vet whatever I build, that's for sure.

Another WhipMag fiasco. You build it, you test it, you do the video. Nobody else ever gets to see it 'cept that invisible buddy of yours holding the camera.