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Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: CLaNZeR on May 19, 2009, 04:13:21 AM
Ummmm seems my messages on the Mylow Yahoo Group are now moderated and have to be approved, so will post here.



--- In mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com, "Sterling D. Allan" <sterlingda@...> wrote:
>
>The thing that makes me question that conclusion is the pendulum effect he shows in the May 13 video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIT9yV2SWUs  No one seems to have been able to replicate that one -- directly under the stator -- and once that is achieved, the key has been found.  I tend to think that is a truism.
>

Hi Sterling

The Pendulum effect is common in most Magnet Motor Designs what opposite poles are towards each other.

With the spacing of Mylows Stators and the spacing of the magnets he got this effect. It can be done.

I demonstrated this in one of my videos quickly using some blocks at around 4:55 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHAK8aQ6tSg

Whether the first Rig Mylow showed was genuine, I do not know.
I like to think I keep an open mind but Mylow has lost all trust by faking the last set of Rigs, so even if the first ones were for real, then he will have to do a lot to convince anyone.

Cheers

Sean.

And of course I clearly show this "pendulum effect" in one of the early videos that documents my testbed construction and baseline testing.
It's no big deal.
For a real pendulum effect that is perhaps a "big deal" check out AdminOnDuty's mag pendulum videos.

Mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Qbq9a84UM

Mr. M

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 19, 2009, 07:54:08 AM
(See, M, I told you that they would say the fakes are fake.)

Very true, you did... Time well spent though.

Believers will always have faith and you'll never take that away from them, that's a given.  Just like religious zealots some people will ignore what is right in front of them and talk around it instead of addressing it and opening up to the possibility that what they have adopted as being the indisputable truth is nothing more than a well crafted lie.

Your replication videos combined with the original high resolution videos that clearly show the 'fishing line' anomaly and the new discussions of the graphs analysing the acceleration/deceleration of the wheel have now reached a point where it is dwarfing all evidence that Mylow provided, limited as it is, that this is a real fully magnetic motor. 

You and the other sceptics have put together a case for this being fake so watertight that the only thing left for believers to do is accuse the debunkers of deception and spread stories of MiB involvement, crop circles and designs imparted by dreams.

There's now more evidence to say this is fake than there is to the contrary and anyone with objectivity and impartiality must accept that, therefore it's case closed for 99.99% of people. If Mylow reappears with a working motor that he takes for truly independent verification then the situation will change but I'm sure a lot more people are now convinced that wont happen than in the infancy of this 'project'.

The ball's not just in his court... I'm sure It's game, set and match in most people's eyes.

spinner

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From Tony to Sterling

..do not send me any more emails regarding mylow motors
i will not answer any questions or make comments
nor will i call you and do not call me at my cell.
this has been very difficult for me and my brother.
the only thing i will say is that the originals where real and
my brother was told not to post anymore (real) motors.
that is it for me i will not accept anymore emails from you or anyothers"
Yep, after MiB got involved, I knew the story was over. We all know that something so important cannot be available to us, poor humans...
That's why there are MiB, Illuminati, Bildenbergs, etc, etc...
There's a rumor they stop each and any revolutionary achievement.


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Why not stop posting all together rather than deceive all the good people who spent many hours and dollars on trying to replicate a fraud.

The ones who got deceived with this "simple" fake should bare all the consequences.
People have been warned right from the start....

Geee, I had been banned because I tried to point out the fallacy of this claim, and tried to warn the replicators before they spend any considerable amount of money...
(beside, usually, the lesson learned is always in proportion with the money spent, or the time invested,..)

I did apologise (here) to the person i "attacked" (the apology was sincere, because I knew him from before and I liked his optimism and skills), and promise not to "attack" ML and others in the future...
....

Hey, we have some chameleons here! People who changed their "sides" just recently (after the tricks have been exposed)...

It's a natural thing. I do like people who have an intensive learning curve. And there were some REAL men who admit they were wrong at the beginning... A few....

...

I still remember that AQ's thread. (the one where a "war" between a "blind believers" and "cynical skeptics" was (at least once for a change) called an "Archurians vs Newtonians")...

As the Archurians were loosing "the battle" (that wasn't very hard considering the claims being made), they invented a new mechanism to fight with the "winning" side.... Somebody proposed to send AQ a donation (to help with his cause, or (maybe) just to annoy Newtonians ) ... Which sparkled a series of similar moves...
...
To make this Loooong story short, at the end, some of the (most loud and fervent allies of AQ "demanded their money back"....)

Jeeez....



Did Mylow ever ask for any money? Did he tried to convince anybody to invest and build "his" motor?
No?
So, don't expect any money returns. From anyone.

Look from the bright side - many small magnet suppliers have cleared up their already forgotten magnet stocks...

And, if you've purchased some magnets now... You can always use them in the future.
...
I still have my magnets collection, (2/3 are old, like from times when the HJ case was discussed on the BBs's (and analog modems), while a third of my stock can be linked with the (relatively recent) Steorn claims...)

Ah, never mind.

"Ex nihilo nihil"

wattsup

@all

The main question now is, if Mylow was faking from the start, why make a sudden change from channel magnets (CM) to bar magnets (BM). If the fake was working out so well with CM, why make the change. Why mention the CMs or Stator was getting weak. Who would have known the magnets were weak if the wheel was turned with a string. Why even mention it. Just keep on pretending they are real and continue the faking. Why????????

Something smells and it ain't our feet.

nyctuber

Quote from: wattsup on May 19, 2009, 08:50:53 AM
@all

The main question now is, if Mylow was faking from the start, why make a sudden change from channel magnets (CM) to bar magnets (BM). If the fake was working out so well with CM, why make the change. Why mention the CMs or Stator was getting weak. Who would have known the magnets were weak if the wheel was turned with a string. Why even mention it. Just keep on pretending they are real and continue the faking. Why????????

Something smells and it ain't our feet.

Because Mylow is living out a childhood fantasy but it got out of hand. No big deal.