Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[AquariuZ]

You know what happened, right...

Mylow came across those channel magnets at Chicago Science & Surplus, and they looked so much like HJ's stonehenge rotors, he lost his mind. When it didn't work, he couldn't help himself and started making videos to live out the fantasy with the world.

Pretty good analysis there...

[waynegage]

A patent will be granted and a working model is not needed as long as you don't call it a perpetual motion machine. In that case a working model is needed. If you call it a motor, no working model is needed.

[AquariuZ]

To both Mylow threads:
I have posted a second video about my Johnson/Mylow replication trials. including the preliminary conclusion that no overunity could be found with the setup I have used (70 cm zinc plated disc with 6x7 rows of  6 magnet elements stacked, double skateboard ball bearings in pvc pipe).
Whether Mylow cheated it or not, what is important is to remember that something cheated does not mean that something is wrong. With different considerations and configurations it still might work. When Mylow cheated, Johnson is not necessarily a cheater. Just like with Brady's Johnson cloned Perendev product. So replications are still worthwhile.

AA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG_WNheWfHM

Beste Aad, prachtig werk. Ik zou willen vragen om te overwegen deze setup eens na te bouwen met exact dezelfde materialen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpQA5c9guvE&feature=channel_page

Video 6, deze setup zou inderdaad kunnen werken.... (ik ga het zeker proberen, maar heb momenteel niet de middelen om aan de -zeldzame- magneten te komen.)

Alvast bedankt.

Great job

[nyctuber]

I saw that about a year and a half ago and many tried to replicate it (including me) and, if I am not mistaken, it was determined to be a scam or hoax a few months later.  It was researched and discussed on a topic here somewhere, although I can't recall the name of the topic at this time.  I think this was about the same time as expensif's motor was revealed as a scam/hoax as it was powered by the air from a hairdryer.  (admitted by the creator)  Actually, this one might have been discussed on that topic.  Maybe others here will have a better memory than I.

Bill   ***EDIT***  I still have all those neos, ha ha.

lol thanks.

I've seen a similar design w/ circular magnets, inside a stator box. I believe Clanzer tested one.

[jibbguy]

You know i hear that said all the time (that "a working model is not required to get a motor Patent"), but have ever seen anything to back it, just similar comments.

Such a statement is usually used to try to discount the existence of a Patent. In the case of Howard Johnson's "exactly 30 year old Patent" (as of this last April), the first and generally considered "main" one for the technology, this may be difficult to achieve, since there was a Federal Patent Appeals Court Hearing on it, with court records of live demonstration

Do you know where something to back the statement about "no demo unit is required" could be found? Just curious. Might be tough to find such proof, i imagine.

I guess we could ask Dr. Thomas Valone, he used to work for the Patent Office.