Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[waynegage]

Nothing said or shown so far convinces me that video #6 is "a fake" either.

Have you forgotten that all of science says it's fake. Fake is the smart position until proven otherwise.

[RunningBare]

@Psyclone

I should also add that I had the video here enhanced, but I did not put it up as any kind of evidence because in my opinion there was not enough clarity, I could already hear the rebuttals, which was evidenced by the silly photoshop theories in the clearly faked videos.
wow, faked fakes, you know, a good writer could make something of this story, and possibly an action MiB thriller.

[Psyclone]

Ok, I don't want to drag this out too far either, so let me just try to clarify what I'm saying and I'll move on...

First, try not to get the impression that I'm trying to convince you (or that I believe) that there is no string - or that there is one.  That's not my point.

In fact, I happen to believe that there was trickery involved in vid #6 as well - particularly in light of all the other evidence from other vids (ie. his S.O.P.).  The question/observation I'm trying to address here is whether vid #6 - on it's own - has convincing evidence, one way or the other.  And my opinion at this point is that it does not.

Looking at it from a purely hypothetical, made up situation...

Let's say that 'Mi-Lo' has been charged with "trickery" - a crime punishable by a large fine and some jail time.

In this case, he was only charged with "trickery" for video #6, but the prosecuter managed to submit all the other videos into evidence.

Jury (me):  "Guilty, your honor".

Now, suppose this was a Capital Forum Crime (punishable by death) - but with a twist: If the "truth" turns out to be that the video was not faked (assuming for the sake of discussion that the "truth" is knowable - it's in an envelope on the Judge's bench), then *I* would be put to death.

...In this case, I'd have to aquit (sp) - I'm not that sure - are you?

(ie. I'm not 100% convinced - either way - that video #6 was faked or not.  I remain open to the possibility that it was not - and the probability that it was)

[nyctuber]

Ok, I don't want to drag this out too far either, so let me just try to clarify what I'm saying and I'll move on...

First, try not to get the impression that I'm trying to convince you (or that I believe) that there is no string - or that there is one.  That's not my point.

In fact, I happen to believe that there was trickery involved in vid #6 as well - particularly in light of all the other evidence from other vids (ie. his S.O.P.).  The question/observation I'm trying to address here is whether vid #6 - on it's own - has convincing evidence, one way or the other.  And my opinion at this point is that it does not.

Looking at it from a purely hypothetical, made up situation...

Let's say that 'Mi-Lo' has been charged with "trickery" - a crime punishable by a large fine and some jail time.

In this case, he was only charged with "trickery" for video #6, but the prosecuter managed to submit all the other videos into evidence.

Jury (me):  "Guilty, your honor".

Now, suppose this was a Capital Forum Crime (punishable by death) - but with a twist: If the "truth" turns out to be that the video was not faked (assuming for the sake of discussion that the "truth" is knowable - it's in an envelope on the Judge's bench), then *I* would be put to death.

...In this case, I'd have to aquit (sp) - I'm not that sure - are you?

Want to convince yourself? Look at the replication attempts. The little wheel sits there, cogs, does maybe a few meager rotations after a hand push, and stops. Mylow's starts up like it has a Chevy 500 HP engine in the thiing and spins and spins at (in comparison) high speed. He has to stop it with both hands or use the stator mount. Once you accept the idea that his 'asymetric micro placement' of the rotors is 100% horsesh*t, it becomes clear as a bell.

[lostcauses10x]

On both sides of this situation there exists preconceived ideas.  Belief if you will.
The play on such has been the major drive of magicians, and in the OU Fe world con men and just folks thinking they can get others to solve what they see as the problem.

All the old names in this game Keely Bessler (speeling) etc; generated the idea of reality to such claimed.

Yet so far no valid (verifiable) verification of reproduction of claims has been achieved, yet folks still look and hope for such. (Me included in that group).

I can and have fooled myself into beliveing, Whip mag being the latest: yet still have not seen any verifiable proof of such.

The magnet motor game has always been around with man since they first found load stone and really started observing the reactions of such.  Yet still today there is NO validated working Permanent magnet motor, despite claims other wise. 
Yet here is folks still looking into and trying to replicate what is claimed from the past, through today with an almost absolute belief it is real.

LOL I play with this stuff, not because I believe it will not work, but in hopes it will.
Yet my experiencing  such is: it is not real.
I no longer just dive into any claim. If I can not see a reason such might work (Usual fooling myself in this) I do not attempt replication.

Folks should always look with what is the magician show today.  How is he really doing it instead of what they claim.  Is it real or is it a trick. In the FE OU world such is done 99% of the time.  Folks who believe in such FE and OU. Do not let the magicians fool you.   

I hope this saga of mylow the magician will teach some folks just to be more careful in believing everything they hear and see.

From what I can tell this would have been the best motivation for the whole show.