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Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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carbonc_cc


nyctuber

Mylow posted 2 vids simultaneously

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDgPC-tjwww&feature=channel_page (the other one)

Looks like groups of 8 rotors now, and it looks like he's trying to create a dipole stator out of 2 hoerseshoes w/ the added sumerium cobalt strip magnets


BEP

When I think about what my choices would be 'if' I thought I had such a find the following comes to mind:

1. I would want to work the problem as I see it. Not self-starting? Maybe that is the level 'I' would consider a real find. After all, self running is already achieved.
2. One step at a time. I would have my own steps already figured.

I'll stop there because I just realized I can't compare my thoughts to Mylow.

Before #1 insert: I wouldn't announce it to the world. Just watching such attempts I already know the work would stop because of outside demands.

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Voting on banning folks is nuts. Use what worked on me  ;)

Just ignore him.



dragon

Quote from: nyctuber on March 31, 2009, 08:13:09 PM
I quite honestly do think it comes down to a drained stator. and, I'll say this.. now that he has shown a way to basically transform his drained iron horseshoe into a charged stator w/ strip magnets, and appears to be doing a rebuild, then now would be the time to expect something in the near future or otherwise be disappointed. He states in his most recent video he wants to do exactly what everyone is asking for, let it run and film it. The one caveat is, he wants it to be self starting and no one knows if he's figured that out yet. Anyway, sorry for taking up space arguing.

Indeed it seems that energy come into stator when they magnetized it, and then it released that energy when the device was working and demagnetized (perhaps not only stator demagnetize but rotors too).

Read that:
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/15/1928229&mode=thread&tid=134

"Magnets, particulalry permenant magnets, are indeed a reservoir of magnetic potential energy.

This energy is small. Like, really small. I'm involved with calculations on magnetic materials, and we typically use units of meV (milli electron Volts) for a magnetic interaction coefficent. That's 1.602 x 10^-22 Joules. Values are typically between around 2 up to maybe 30. Might be higher with the special rare-earths, dunno.

Iron has 8 interactions per atom. Thus, a magnetic energy of the order of 2 * 10^-20 J per atom. One mole of iron will therefore have of the order of 2 * 10^-20 * Avagadro's number = 2 * 10^-20 * 6 * 10^23 = 12 * 10^3 J. That's 12 kJ of magnetic energy, in 55g of the stuff.


  • So, a post about says that the moter has a discrepancy of 1.2 W (can't get to the article myself). With 55g of iron permenant magnets then, that's enough to run that system for 10 000 seconds. Might sound a lot, but that's 2.7 hours. If I'm within an order of magnitude, that's a runtime of the system of around a day at most, assuming 100% conversion of the magnetic energy into rotational energy. [1]

    No. There is not enough magnetic energy in the parmenant magnets.

  • In fact, I think that you could only get 1/2 of that out. Still, I'm ignoring that, cos I think that this is only within an order of magnitude.

    [1] Which I doubt. A lot. In fact, I've never seen any suggested method for doing that."

    BTW, I heard that this guy:
    http://www.japaninc.com/article.php?articleID=1302
    allegedly was murdered after he sold 40000 of his motors. :(