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Overunity Machines Forum



Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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billmehess


CLaNZeR

Quote from: hartiberlin on March 24, 2009, 04:36:38 PM

I am amazed how low the forces are of these combinations, as you can see here at about 9:30 min

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XVv9VvNOyQ

It is interesting that at around 9:30 min he shows how the runner magnet just sticks only to one leg of the stator magnet.
From the other one the Alnico magnet just lets go and does not stick...!

Ummm just re-watched that and how can that be?

The Stator has obviously got the S pole magnetised as the N Side face of the Rotor magnets attracts and sticks and at the same time the South side of the Stator repulses the bottom South Pole of the Rotor magnet but the Stator does not have a North pole opposite?.

If this is the case then he has more likely discovered a Stator design that will overcome the sticky spot in any Rotor Design as it will not pull back as such.

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Omnibus

@billmehess,

Sorry for that comment window that appeared after I clicked on your vid. It published it without a warning but then I can't delete it. Is this some new feature on youtube? I saw on Mylow's too here and there such windows but thank God they won't be published just like that when you click on the video.

On your replication. I think one of the important thing is to have these gaps between the clusters of magnets which are seen in Howard Johnson's original photographs (not in his patents) and which Mylow has also adopted. Respectfully, I don't think so far your rig shows anything significant, including overcoming the gate. The entire set must be put together around the rim, when all the cooperation between all the magnets will be at work, and only then one can judge whether or not there's a tangential driving force as in Mylow. Partial build always shows what we see in your video.

PaulLowrance

Quote from: hartiberlin on March 24, 2009, 04:15:08 PM
Paul,
if it is running a few hours, it has already delivered much more than draining the magnets.
These Alnico and pure Iron magnets have a very low magnetic energy storage !
If it runs more than a few minutes it has proven already COP > 1.

In a previous post I offered the same thought, but also stated that we cannot know until we know how much friction is involved in his machine. I've seen machines require *less* than a milliwatt to spin at such low rpm's. That's why I asked several times if anyone had a rough idea how much power is requires to maintain that low rpm. So far you're the only person that has shown any interest in know such questions.

Also, I provided a very rough estimate that his iron stator PM has a few joules of energy. So we know his machine degausses the stator. The big question is does that PM energy loss equal the loss in mechanical friction.

Who knows, but I'd sure be far more at ease if mylow had a knowledgeable notable scientist do such measurements rather than an anti-academic person.

PL

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Quote from: billmehess on March 24, 2009, 05:05:34 PM
My second video, showing the stator moving past the magnetic gate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiM75SFpQdA&layer_token=d34cb5be45a11e25

Hi Bill

Excellent Rig, much better and much more stable. Something you will now be able to use for many different setups.

The configuration you have at the moment, is still hitting the infamous Sticky spot though and this is the failing point of every wheel design out there.

Mylow's main claim is by using the magnet shapes and pole configuration he is using, is that it over comes these sticky spots.

Your Rotor Magnets have N Pole on either the bottom or top and the S Pole on the opposite, but there is no Air gap between the Poles as in Mylo's Channel magnets.

With the Stator magnets you have N Pole or S Pole facing inwards towards the Rotor magnets and the opposite going to the center of the Rotor. On Mylo's he has it with the N Pole or South Pole facing sideways, again with a gap.

I think if using conventional magnets as you have there, you may be better off say using two magnets for each of the Rotors and seperate them with a Iron bracket that goes vertical and is screwed to your Rotor. So you then can have North say at the top and S down the bottom with a space.

The with the Stator Magnet do the same to introduce the airgap between the Poles.

Keep it coming

Cheers

Sean.
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