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Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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Grimer

I should like to point out a possible problem for Mylow Magnetic Motor (MMM) builders.

Mylow has established the the stator magnet slowly looses strength with time.

Now is may be that the rotor magnets slowly gain strength with time. Steorn has reported such a paradoxical gain in strength, though being a commercial organisation they are naturally keeping their cards close to their chest and have not said which set of magnets gained in strength.

In the Mylow motor there are many rotor magnets so it may take time for a gain in strength to manifest itself. But just as loss in strength of the stator leads to failure of the motor so also gain in strength of the rotor magnets may lead to failure.

I believe that it is the difference between stator and rotor magnets which will govern the success of the rotor. Moreover, it may not be the first order difference but the second order difference which governs, in short the equivalent of magnetic "temperature" rather than magnetic "pressure".

Like the ruins that "Cromwell knocked about a bit" both Mylow's and Alsetalokin's rotor magnets have unknown historys.

Just as with a heat engine it is a potential difference which governs performance, a Stirling runs as successfully on an ice cube as on a hot coffee for example, so with the MMM it may be the first or second order difference in magnetic potential between stator and rotor which is the key to success.
Who is she that cometh forth as the morning rising  -  Fair as the moon. Bright as the sun  -  Terrible as an army set in battle array.

Omnibus

Hi Stefan,

Indeed, Howard Johnson had been the inspiration for most of us. However, what really convinced me of the reality of “energy from nothing” (meaning energy appearing only due to a created opportunity allowing a force to induce displacement and not energy coming from a pre-existing energy reservoir) was the magnetic propulsor. Discontinuous production of “energy from nothing” (excess energy) for me now is a given â€" proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. How to produce excess energy continuously (a purely engineering problem) is still unresolved, unfortunately.

As I mentioned earlier, if one needs illustration, this is like an Escher picture. What looks initially to be the bottom always further turns out to be the top. This is some kind of a Hegel’s dialectics whereby the action always creates its own rejection.

The best illustration of this so far, I think, is Torbay’s idea â€" not demonstrated yet in flesh and blood, again, only due to purely engineering difficulties.

In the present case it seems we are encountering something similar (all these ideas have a common basis) but while Mylow’s is easier to manufacture compared to Torbay’s, it seems harder to understand. Undoubtedly, here again there must be some asymmetry, elusive as ever, that has to be created continuously, so that it would ensure the tendency of the rotor, ever chasing equilibrium, to never achieve it. What is the interplay of the fields of the magnets in their peculiar arrangement by Mylow that ensures this asymmetry is still unclear to me. @CLaNZeR hinted at some discovery Mylow has unwittingly made of a magnetic neutral zone with no interaction but I still don’t see it. Would be good if Mylow can show us some basic measurements of the magnetic induction along the whole pattern of magnets but he doesn’t seem to like to cooperate in this most important direction of study. This we’ll have to find out ourselves by trial and error, if achieving such desirable asymmetric profile of the field is at all possible. Do you remember when we were discussing Steorn’s contraption? I think we’re facing here a similar situation.

lostcauses10x

So the brother is an engineer, ah this story gets more interesting as time goes by.

Well Time will tell.

Grimer

Quote from: Grimer on March 24, 2009, 10:41:39 PM
I should like to point out a possible problem for Mylow Magnetic Motor (MMM) builders.

Mylow has established the the stator magnet slowly looses strength with time.

Now is may be that the rotor magnets slowly gain strength with time. Steorn has reported such a paradoxical gain in strength, though being a commercial organisation they are naturally keeping their cards close to their chest and have not said which set of magnets gained in strength.

In the Mylow motor there are many rotor magnets so it may take time for a gain in strength to manifest itself. But just as loss in strength of the stator leads to failure of the motor so also gain in strength of the rotor magnets may lead to failure.

I believe that it is the difference between stator and rotor magnets which will govern the success of the rotor. Moreover, it may not be the first order difference but the second order difference which governs, in short the equivalent of magnetic "temperature" rather than magnetic "pressure".

Like the ruins that "Cromwell knocked about a bit" both Mylow's and Alsetalokin's rotor magnets have unknown historys.

Just as with a heat engine it is a potential difference which governs performance, a Stirling runs as successfully on an ice cube as on a hot coffee for example, so with the MMM it may be the first or second order difference in magnetic potential between stator and rotor which is the key to success.

I believe I now understand where the explosive acceleration came from that Alsetalokin showed with the WhipMag.

When carrying out stress-strain determinations on materials such as concrete one eventually arrives at at point where the strain energy released by the test machine is greater than the capacity of the concrete to absorb. This leads to a positive feedback loop and the explosive failure of the concrete and prevents one following the concrete stress-strain curve down its descending branch. The testing deficiency can be overcome by employing a very stiff test machine.
We did this with the BRS 1000 ton Amsler by shunting most of the load through huge concrete blocks on either side of the test specimen so that the Amsler was far stiffer than the negative slope of the specimen stress-strain curve.

Now in Alsetalokin's case think of the stator field as the test machine and the rotor field as the specimen. A point is reached, as in the concrete case, where the stator field strain energy is greater than the rotor fields capacity to absorb it. This will lead to positive feedback and the violent acceleration seen in Al's video. This unexpected phenomenon is evidence that the video is genuine (pace Omnibus). It must have been a hell of a shock to Al when it happened - which may explain his subsequent anally retentive attitude. What a contrast to Mylow's.
Who is she that cometh forth as the morning rising  -  Fair as the moon. Bright as the sun  -  Terrible as an army set in battle array.

mikestocks2006

An independent confirmation?
So far looks good?

sparkyrocky12131963 (35 minutes ago)
"hi to all that are reading this i had the pleasure of seeing first hand mylows
working howard johnson motor and i have to say i was very impressed with this my sincere thanks goes to mylow for letting me see this machine. there are some very interesting phenonenom here at work. this this the best and only working HJ model i have seen that past 25 years i have been fallowing this.
here is a clean not polluting device. bravo bravo mlyow. as an engineer in electricity i am overwelmed with this."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqnlhmSPTAI&feature=channel_page