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Overunity Machines Forum



Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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slapper

Quote from: X00013 on March 26, 2009, 12:07:03 AM
And yes thats 25 cents a piece US.

dang
X00013 that is pretty good. Can't see needing anymore than 120 of them. I'd like for you to take another look at the dimensions. If we were to look at the ACH79 dimensions they'd look like this.

dim    in       mm
A    0.790   20.066
B    0.445   11.303
C    0.364    9.246
D    0.189    4.801
E    0.245    6.223
F    0.412   10.465

Dimensions taken from here: http://www.allmagnetics.com/alnicochannel.htm

Sure wish we can do something with these lead times. The IC die I get takes less than a week to get here just east of the Mississippi river.

Thank you X00013.
And a big thank you to MyLow. Now look at what you started  ;D

Take care.

nap
we are not alone :)

JRHall

Guys,
Those of you who are sniping at each other please take it off line.  Reminds me of my little kids.

Right now we have a video and Mylows reports.  Until we have a replication in place we are working off speculation.  My suggestion to this group is we work off data and be data driven in our efforts.  A number of hypothysis have been thrown out.  Once we have the replication in place DOE's can be designed to prove or disprove.  Slow and methodical is the best way to avoid mistakes and not jump to conclusions.

I've ordered parts but they will not be here for some time.  So far I have not found the same size channel magnets.  The Chinese company sounds like the best bet so far and if enough of us banded together to increase the order size we most likely can improve either the price or delivery time.  I would vote working delivery.  While I wait I'm working on a set of CAD drawings to build from.

BTW- Not all engineers think within the box of the classical physics and math they were trained with.

Grimer

Quote from: nickle989 on March 26, 2009, 12:14:51 AM
snip of my post on yahoo group .. thought i would be it here as the group here is more intune it seems

This is a reasonable explanation, in my opinion of why it works as it does ...

The first clue is that he has to recharge the magnets as they loose the charge. The second is the "odd magnet out" this does make sense as magnet motors will NEVER work if everything is equal ... magnets themselves will try and mostly will find equilibrium. Nature / space is never in equilibrium and yet I constantly see everyone trying to get to that spot thinking that overunity can be achieved that way. Space is not!

The magnets are clearly showing a rate of decay ......

It is the stator magnet (singular) that is clearly showing a rate of decay.

We don't know that the rotor magnets are showing a state of decay. It might be that their strength is increasing albeit at a rate more slowly than the strength of the stator magnet is declining since there are many rotor magnets and only one stator magnet.. One could argue that it is the difference in strength between the magnets which is driving the motor and that the motor stops when the rotor magnets strength increase to the same point as the stator magnet declines,
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slipstream

I apologize in advance for the length of this post, but for those who have the stamina I think you'll enjoy a few of the points it raises.

First let me say that I am neither skeptic nor banner carrier, time will tell the story.

#1 Mylow states that he has replicated the motor created by Howard Johnson. At no point has he (or did Howard Johnson for that matter) claimed to have created an over unity device.

#2 http://www.rexresearch.com/johnson/1johnson.htm and http://www.newebmasters.com/freeenergy/sm.html are both on-line copies of the original 1980 Spring issue depicting the Johnson Motor. This article clearly states that Johnson used Samarium Cobalt (SmCo) magnets. SmCo magnets have an exceptionally high resistance to demagnetization.

#3 In the radio Interview http://pesn.com/Radio/Free_Energy_Now/recordings/2009/090323_Mylow_MagnetMotor.mp3 a caller claiming to have known Howard Johnson called in. He stated that Howard Johnson had some interesting ideas as to why the magnets degaussed. Assuming this caller is genuine and his information is accurate, Howard Johnson also faced a degaussing "problem".

#4 The lab reporthttp://keelytech.com/overunity/johnsongate.doc is generated out of lab by Thomas E. Bearden If you are familiar with this name, it should raise questions and or concerns; take that as you will (to me it nullifies the report).

#5 Regardless if HJ suffered degaussing issues (I assume he did, it's plausible to explain why his device isn't widespread), Mylow has explicitly stated that his motor does suffer this issue with the stator magnet.  That being the case this device IS NOT over unity, NOR is it a perpetual motion machine. IT IS a permanent magnet motor (assuming it works) which is an accomplishment all on its own.


The degaussing issue may or may not be resolved eventually, but currently in my view the machine has turned stored magnetic energy into kinetic force, this does not violate the generally accepted laws of thermodynamics. Perhaps the magnetic energy is transferred to the rotor magnets (as has been suggested) even at 100% transfer the device is still not over unity. Maybe it dumps the energy in the black abyss or maybe it simply is so weak that the repeated exposure to the rotor magnets erodes the magnetic integrity of the stator, it really doesn't matter. It suggests that perhaps stored magnetic energy may be a viable energy storage medium or at the least that some work can be done via magnetic force until that force depletes/erodes/transfers etc.

It is not my intent to say it isn't authentic or that it is, only to share my two cents, whatever value you may find in them. To me Mylow seems genuine and unlikely to be a scammer or hoax. There are forces at work which he openly admits to not understanding (nor do any of us with absolute certainty) why it works (again assuming it does). It may work, it may not.