Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[Omnibus]

no it is not correct. I must spin at least one million, three hundred fifty seven and nine five times! 

Fausto.

This is also incorrect.

[Omnibus]

billmehess: 
No, there is no consensus.  I am hopeful that Mylow's device will do these things, and will prove to be an overunity machine, and that ultimately this magnetic motor research will prove to be truly beneficial.  Time will tell.

But I also think arguments such as whether certain conditions show "overunity" have no real value.  There are probably hundreds of derailed threads in this and other forums in which people have argued for weeks over things that cannot yet be proven either way.

Let someone show two full turns of a rotor on its own starting from stand-still and then we'll talk is it or is it not overunity. It is, of course. Unfortunately, no one so far has shown such a thing, proving continuous production of excess energy (discontinuous production of excess energy, that is violation of CoE, has already been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt).

[sirinewton]

Does anyone know where to get a hold of the raw data that Howard Johnson and Steve Davis mapped out with their XYZ Table/Hall Effect sensors?
Some more detailed specifications of their setup would be nice.
The book published by Cheniere Publishing says that the sampled data was stored on a floppy disk.
Does not seem that anyone went beyond the 3D imaging of the data that appears in the book.

Thanks and take care.

nap

Gday all,
Okay, I thought for the curiosity of the exercise, I would have a look at what all the mysterious secrecy pertaining to magnets that was unearthed by HJ in his book.

So, according to his findings using the hall effect sensors, he discovered that the N and S fields actually produce a 2 and 3 dimensional pattern that curls out and returns back into the magnetic material earlier, rather than following the more traditional N and S field line patterns we use to see in high school.  Okay, I can see that.  Well done for the discovery of that fact. 
However, it still doesn't mean that because they form a different field shape that the field itself is going to produce some mysterious excess energy at those outer edges. 
An easy test would be to put a piece of copper wire in that edge area and measure an electron flow in the wire or a voltage and current across it whilst NOT moving the wire.  I will guarantee you will NOT get a voltage.  Why? Because it's a STATIC field.  The only way to get the wire to produce a voltage and current is for the wire itself to be moving perpendicular or at right angles through the static magnetic field lines.

So, as I said in my first post, that unless the magnetic field was pulsating naturally, then you definitely would be able to get useful work from it and yes have a sort of self -running magnet motor.
So now let's carefully think about this.   If a magnet had a pulsating field, wouldn't the magnet itself  be doing it's own work?  If you say yes, then it must obey Newton's laws and it would run down, whilst generating some heat too. Therefore, your self-running magnet motor will stop.
Right about now I"m betting some of you are gonna say " Ahah!!  but Mylow's magnet has lost it's magnetism whilst supposedly running his wheel, therefore, it must be imparting energy". No this is not correct. This unfortunately is where the 'skeptical' rises up in me. Sorry guys.
If that was the case then Mylow and any other person would observe and feel a thermodynamic condition such as heat coming from his magnet as it begins to stop. 
It can only be the weak domains within the material of his magnet that do not have strong magnetic alignment properties, eg. Alnico metal.
Therefore, his reported decrease in magnetism is more than likely due to some external influence on the domains of his magnet eg. the rotor magnets' magnetic fields, a sharp hit, dropped on the floor perhaps etc...
Okay.   I can still hear some of you saying "but Mylow said his wheel ran for several hrs or something".    Alright.   Let's say it did run.    So now his magnet is run down and he's going to have to charge it up forever like a battery.  So where would this energy come from to recharge the magnet?  A power station burning fossil fuel or using solar or wind (I know wind and solar are technically free from the sun)?
So the question is - Could you really say that your magnet motor was really now a 'free energy' machine in the true sense of what O.U is all about?

Please think carefully about what I've written before anyone decides my newbie status is up already and condemns me to the 'skeptics' dungeon.  I'm only trying to get people to use critical thinking and common sense.  Always ask yourself  " so where does the energy come in from?"
Cheers.

[Omnibus]

So now his magnet is run down and he's going to have to charge it up forever like a battery.

This is incorrect. As I explained already more than once demagnetization of a permanent magnet requires spending of energy. Therefore, a permanent magnet is not an energy reservoir like a battery. The situation is exactly the opposite and degaussing of the magnets during the work of Mylow's machine still further proves its overunity character, provided it is true that it can run for 11, let alone 27hours, as he claimed in one of his vids.

[hartiberlin]

Hi Gang,

Video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC8vJx6cg2s



Thats all
Ben

Nice setup Ben.
Well done.
try to get more magnets and let us see,
if it will run.
Many thanks in advance.
Regards, Stefan.