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Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

Started by X00013, March 17, 2009, 06:27:33 AM

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sterlinga

Quote from: queue on April 05, 2009, 02:11:51 AM
Posted a new video just now .. which kind of speaks for itself . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIs5YcUXyM0

Bcc to Mylow

Queue's set up is very close to yours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIs5YcUXyM0

He can't seem to get it to go.

Perhaps you might have some input for him?

At the end he gives a view of his stator magnet.  I notice that it has "hips".  I'm guessing that this is something to be avoided, and that straight legs or stretched legs are preferred. 

I would recommend that he replace his stator magnet with the one I sent you, that you used in your latest video:
http://www.allmagnetics.com/alnicohoursehouse.htm - HS811N

Sterling

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capthook

Quote from: sterlinga on April 05, 2009, 02:02:06 AM
I don't blame Mylow for taking all his videos down.  I bet he's pretty disgusted with the dogpile treatment he's gotten today at Overunity.com.
Sterling

Much of what you call "dogpile treatment" and other such comments you have made towards overunity.com and it's members is pushing it a bit far IMO.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. 
To doubt and question is healthy and required.
And while a small fraction might be construed as bashing, most of the scepticism has been in line, and - still to this day over the centuries - warranted and accurate.

While the information/details presented by Mylow was interesting, the evidence was lacking to truly determine it's viability one way or the other.

Back on page 2 of this thread I expressed that this was a somewhat novel design and warranted further investigation.
But as the story has unfolded, the tale has progressively turned towards the negative IMO.

WHO REALLY BELIEVES MIB showed up at his house and stole his materials only to later return them?  This portion of his story is enough to cast serious doubt on his other claims.
Then there is the resistance to have anyone examine his device, and the videos that somehow show just enough of this or that, but never the full story etc. etc.

The effort and assistance you have provided in this endevour and so many others deserves high praise.  Thanks for what you do.

However, on this project, there have been many assumptions and opinions based on high expectations without the accompanying evidence.

queue

Quote from: sterlinga on April 05, 2009, 03:04:19 AM
Bcc to Mylow

Queue's set up is very close to yours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIs5YcUXyM0

He can't seem to get it to go.

Perhaps you might have some input for him?

At the end he gives a view of his stator magnet.  I notice that it has "hips".  I'm guessing that this is something to be avoided, and that straight legs or stretched legs are preferred. 

I would recommend that he replace his stator magnet with the one I sent you, that you used in your latest video:
http://www.allmagnetics.com/alnicohoursehouse.htm - HS811N

Sterling

posted at http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:MYLOW:Replications#Queue

@Sterling

Although i did not film all of my play(8 hours) today..  only about ten minutes of it .. i did in fact try out each of the stators today that i have detailed on my page to try and get the disk working.

i also tried enhancing/strengthening  some of my HS stators with several diferrent neo's i have about . .

i did not see anything even remotely like Mylow's video manifest itself on my disk.
The stator magnet you see in my video today has 8 pound pull - you may have also noticed that i added two small shiny n50 neos to each hip to help strengthen it's field.

Stators here
http://overunity.ca/Mylow

Cheers
Q

Omnibus

@capthook,

While all the rest you say is obvious and reasonable this commonly uttered mantra isn’t:

QuoteExtraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Claims in science are subject to uniform sets of criteria for truthfulness. There are no ordinary and extraordinary claims as far as science is concerned. True science is emotionless.

In the present case, as in any technical claim of such character (claim for a functioning motor) all that is needed is independent verification by independent parties. That’s all and that’s not too much to ask. There is nothing extraordinary let alone anything having to do with “dogpile treatment” in such asking. The fact that someone like Mylow may perceive it as the latter, and his understanding that we should only take uncritically his word for it, is only at Mylow’s expense and has no bearing on the search for the truth. People can be misguided about various things but that doesn’t mean that their confusion and sense of hurt feelings when exposed should set a standard for what is and what isn’t required as proof in science and should restrain others from being critical.

nyctuber

Quote from: capthook on April 05, 2009, 03:12:41 AM
Much of what you call "dogpile treatment" and other such comments you have made towards overunity.com and it's members is pushing it a bit far IMO.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. 
To doubt and question is healthy and required.
And while a small fraction might be construed as bashing, most of the scepticism has been in line, and - still to this day over the centuries - warranted and accurate.

While the information/details presented by Mylow was interesting, the evidence was lacking to truly determine it's viability one way or the other.

Back on page 2 of this thread I expressed that this was a somewhat novel design and warranted further investigation.
But as the story has unfolded, the tale has progressively turned towards the negative IMO.

WHO REALLY BELIEVES MIB showed up at his house and stole his materials only to later return them?  This portion of his story is enough to cast serious doubt on his other claims.
Then there is the resistance to have anyone examine his device, and the videos that somehow show just enough of this or that, but never the full story etc. etc.

The effort and assistance you have provided in this endevour and so many others deserves high praise.  Thanks for what you do.

However, on this project, there have been many assumptions and opinions based on high expectations without the accompanying evidence.


He didn't say MIB's showed up, he said a tough guy accompanied his lawyer and threatened him, took his shit, then returned it. Something obviously happened, his entire demeanor changed.