Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[RunningBare]

Yeah, had me laughing also.
Note the comments, now that's a clear example of bias.

The whole thing was worth it for this alone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSU8_K4TAO4

It's still hilarious.

[Psyclone]

@RB, TK, nyc, lost, etc.

All I'm trying to do is play devil's advocate.  I believe strongly in a healthy dose of skeptism, but am always cautious where that becomes bias.  There's also nothing wrong with being biased - as long as you recognize that/when you are - you (I) always want to remain open/objective to new ideas and concepts.

If I've made anyone stop and re-evaluate thier potential biases and thought processes, and you're happy with your conclusions, then I'm happy too .

@the optimists among you (including the skeptics)...

Don't let "it's never been done before" stop you.  How often was that said about manned flight before the Wright Brothers worked out the details required to make it happen? History is a great teacher, but challenging what's "known to be true" is IMO the way of innovation.  Also if the 'facts' and known 'laws' are based on a false / incomplete model (they always are, always have been and always will be) then aren't those laws (of nature/physics/whatever) equally incomplete?

Someone (AquariuZ?) posted a link the other day to http://aias.us and I found it facinating.  I don't have enough knowledge/education to comprehend (let alone validate) everything discussed there, but it sure sounds at least worthy of perusal (I like that it's rooted in geometry - because it rings true with some of my more 'metaphysical' beliefs about reality, but now better explained in a more scientific manner (assuming I could understand it all )).

I'm sure others here may have opinions on it's validity as a unified theory (?).

[nyctuber]

@RB, TK, nyc, lost, etc.

All I'm trying to do is play devil's advocate.  I believe strongly in a healthy dose of skeptism, but am always cautious where that becomes bias.  There's also nothing wrong with being biased - as long as you recognize that/when you are - you (I) always want to remain open/objective to new ideas and concepts.

If I've made anyone stop and re-evaluate thier potential biases and thought processes, and you're happy with your conclusions, then I'm happy too .

@the optimists among you (including the skeptics)...

Don't let "it's never been done before" stop you.  How often was that said about manned flight before the Wright Brothers worked out the details required to make it happen? History is a great teacher, but challenging what's "known to be true" is IMO the way of innovation.  Also if the 'facts' and known 'laws' are based on a false / incomplete model (they always are, always have been and always will be) then aren't those laws (of nature/physics/whatever) equally incomplete?

I don't think you realize that nearly everyone here has been on both sides of the fence regarding Mylow. Aquar1uZ is one major exception, he refuses to accept reality. I know for a fact that there is fishing line in the first video, because I bothered to watch the hi res of later videos and compared them to normal versions. The scientific process was followed, and the answer is, it's a 100% fake from start to finish.

[RunningBare]

Psyclone, I like the debates with you, and from what I read you are nobodies fool.
But this is an incorrect analogy, in fact I'd say Davinci himself proves this to be an incorrect analogy, birds and mammals were already in flight, those who shouted down the Write brothers lacked the Knowledge to understand how it was possible, they may have been bright in their chosen fields, that however does not mean they understood everything.

Don't let "it's never been done before" stop you.  How often was that said about manned flight before the Wright Brothers worked out the details required to make it happen? History is a great teacher, but challenging what's "known to be true" is IMO the way of innovation.  Also if the 'facts' and known 'laws' are based on a false / incomplete model (they always are, always have been and always will be) then aren't those laws (of nature/physics/whatever) equally incomplete?

[Psyclone]

Psyclone, I like the debates with you, and from what I read you are nobodies fool.
But this is an incorrect analogy, in fact I'd say Davinci himself proves this to be an incorrect analogy, birds and mammals were already in flight, those who shouted down the Write brothers lacked the Knowledge to understand how it was possible, they may have been bright in their chosen fields, that however does not mean they understood everything.

Point taken - it may have been a bad analogy.  Maybe a better way of expressing it would be the quote (which I may be mis-remembering the exact wording of):

"Absence of Proof is not Proof of Absence"