Dissociation of the Water Molecule

[newbie123]

What is this? The dastardly duo? Or are you Farrah Day's Side kick? Or maybe your his second personality? You two are so very much alike. Face it, your a troll! Or should I say both of you?

Troll?  Nah...   If I was a trolling, you'd see me in a different thread trying to stir things up (gravity wheel threads, etc)..        I'm just trying to show why skepticism is good, and totally believing Stan Meyer (and others)  is bad.   People seem to think the opposite ... Skepticism is bad (and Faraday and me are the evil debunker trolls), and believing all the far out energy stories is  good (and perfectly logical)...  Wake up!!   

I just like doing experiments and scientific research WRT energy.. That's why I'm here..  I'm opened minded about new energy sources, and I  was hoping to find some more science oriented people here to maybe look into Kanzius or LENR..    It's pointless to go to a  science forum  and talk about Kanzius, Meyer, etc...    The science forum people are as closed minded to Kanzius & Coldfusion   as  most of you guys are about Skepticism & Science.   

[jibbguy]

Gee since you apparently analyzed my articles and couldn't find anything else specific to attack me with...... What does that tell us lol?

I guess you were hoping i would have "Dennis Lee" mentioned or something hehehe . No such luck.... So pick something to back your claims and let's have at it. I knew i would have to deal with people like you when i wrote these and put my name on them.... And believe me, much better debating opponents than you have come at me

Well, since you operate purely in the realm your personal opinion... Here's mine: You ARE a knee-jerking naysayer, and you do NOT qualify as a "legitimate skeptic" (....because you don't bring anything to the table but your opinions). Eric at "Philadelphia Skeptics" (who really should be your model, imo) at least has facts at his disposal, he does his homework, and is generally polite. I respect his intellect and he also knows when to shut up or stay away from a topic

I suspect he understands the true situation of many of these cases... That there is a VERY GOOD REASON why there is so little of substance available to debunk many of the "F-E" topics: Because they are "forbidden" subjects. You see, the people who suppress have two options: Try to debunk, or remain silent (the premise of the latter being that: "Any mention at all is worse than no mention").  When the choice is to "remain silent" ; then you get no debunking points to help you, no Papers, no University Studies, nothing. That's why you will often have such a hard time finding anything of substance to refute these claims (the Kanzius technology being a prime example).

Here's the difference between a legitimate skeptic and a naysayer in a nutshell: The naysayer will first decide some idea or technology is "B-S", then spend their time trying to justify their opinion..... Get it? ..... Actually, your attack of my work AFTER i challenged your and your buddy's little soup-pissing spree on Dr. Kanzius shows this rather well... So thanks for dis'ing my work as proof of point

You called me "dip shit" by inference, then followed it up with "arse-hole" and that is your idea of "good science", lol? You showed us quite graphically you are a person who is governed by emotion, not logic; who then attempts to hide behind "scientific method" as a cloak. The worst problem of all for you with this type behavior is it makes you easy to manipulate.

That was what my above comment about how enlightening your "arsehole" post was referring to: Now whenever someone reads one of your attack posts they can filter it through what they now know about your personality and where you are coming from. And this is completely your own fault: When you try to shove your negative opinions on everyone with nothing to back them, that's all they really have to go on. So thanks again for walking into it 

But you are right in one aspect: This is utterly pointless. So unless you specifically attack the data in one of my article segments or posts in the future with something of substance (more "Last Word" ad homenims without anything to back them are "ok" LOL), i will be happy to leave you to your "Kingdom of the Damning"

[Farrah Day]

Do you actually read any posts Jibby?   Brown's gas vs Rhodes???

Have you actually read any of my earlier posts on this thread Jibby?

No of course you haven't, as if you had you'd realise just how much garbage you are posting.

It's like talking to a brick wall, you don't listen do you? And just remember it was you that became abusive in the first place, not me!

Do us all a favour and bugger off and write a poem or something - science is not really your forte!

[llewgnal]

Wouldn't that be sweet..      It might be possible some day (with LENR type technologies, perhaps), but I've given up on the Stan Meyer concepts...

I've seen quite a few Meyer videos, but not one were he  measures the cell's  temperature.  Do you have a link?

This is all speculation though!     If the world had some  working WFCs it wouldn't be, but until then I don't think science needs an upgrade.

http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/water/magnetic.html#r163

[triffid]

I would think that only a very small amount of water would dissociate to (OH)- and (H3O)+. Somewhere on the order of a few millionths of a mole per mole of water.You would have to have something in the water to grab that (OH)- or (H3O)+ as its being made.Thermal energy(heat) would be enough to make it happen.Just thinking out loud here.Triffid