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For Stefan: About the Bedini Motor/Generator

Started by Magnethos, May 11, 2008, 02:35:54 PM

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Ren

Guys listen up. What I believe Stefan is trying to say is that you can turn a coreless (no cogging) alternator/windmill for peanuts but when you try to use the power created by the alternator you are loading the coils of the alternator. Lenz law applies to the generator, but not to the driving force in this instance, it being the monopole. The load will affect the source, which is the alternator, which will in turn affect the monopole.

Before you jump to conclusions I have built Bedini devices, actually Magnethos' video link above has a picture of one of my first builds, used without my permission, :o but I dont really care ;D. Thats what you get when you post stuff on the net :D

So saying, I think the idea has merit. Infact I am actually in the process of building something almost identical in principle. I'll give you a couple of tips which will help if you wish to further this idea.

The first tip is obvious, alternator has to be as frictionless as possible, check out Hugh Piggots axial flux windmill plans for starters.

Second you are going to need alot more power from your monopole or drive motor. Theres a few ways to do this, scale up, multi coils, higher voltage, different configurations etc.... There are plenty of others, but do your homework. The particular config I am working on should provide adequate torque, especially at higher voltages.

Lastly consider this. If the nature of the pulsing on the monopole all but eliminates certain problems otherwise associated with electric motors, then why are you just pulsing on the front end of the motor? Think about it and do some more Bedini homework.......the idea is not without merit, there is just some  factors you need to address/test.

Good luck.

Magnethos

Quote from: Ren on May 12, 2008, 05:24:07 AM
Guys listen up. What I believe Stefan is trying to say is that you can turn a coreless (no cogging) alternator/windmill for peanuts but when you try to use the power created by the alternator you are loading the coils of the alternator. Lenz law applies to the generator, but not to the driving force in this instance, it being the monopole. The load will affect the source, which is the alternator, which will in turn affect the monopole.

Before you jump to conclusions I have built Bedini devices, actually Magnethos' video link above has a picture of one of my first builds, used without my permission, :o but I dont really care ;D. Thats what you get when you post stuff on the net :D

So saying, I think the idea has merit. Infact I am actually in the process of building something almost identical in principle. I'll give you a couple of tips which will help if you wish to further this idea.

The first tip is obvious, alternator has to be as frictionless as possible, check out Hugh Piggots axial flux windmill plans for starters.

Second you are going to need alot more power from your monopole or drive motor. Theres a few ways to do this, scale up, multi coils, higher voltage, different configurations etc.... There are plenty of others, but do your homework. The particular config I am working on should provide adequate torque, especially at higher voltages.

Lastly consider this. If the nature of the pulsing on the monopole all but eliminates certain problems otherwise associated with electric motors, then why are you just pulsing on the front end of the motor? Think about it and do some more Bedini homework.......the idea is not without merit, there is just some  factors you need to address/test.

Good luck.
Sorry for publish your work without your permission  ;)
The video only shows the basic idea. I know that I must to improve some parts to get better results, but I don?t know nothing about electronics and I have never built a device. So... I could need to test some factors because I think that I?m ignoring very important parts. I must to read more and research to see what would happens. But I?m agree with you. I don?t know some important parts.

Ren

lol no apology necessary. Join the monopole forums for more info and start building and complete the load tests. I knew nothing about electronics a year ago, the simple monopole is called the school girl motor for a reason!

Enjoy

dougotio

Hi guys,
What I have been thinking about for a while now is to use centrifugal and fly wheel forces in addition to the Bedini circuit. What I propose doing is to use a 2”x 2” steel bar I have that is 10 ft. long.
The bar weighs about 136 lbs. I plan to put a fairing on the bar to make it as aerodynamic as possible.
I would use the Bedini circuit “drive” coils at the outer ends of the bar (5 ft. from center).
At the center I propose to have a hub that will accommodate a good sized PM turbine to extract power from.

I think that if I had the Bedini “drive” coils at 3 ft. and 5ft. from the hub along with some adroit switching I should see some good results do to the fact that I could drive the “flywheel” and use the coils like a transmission i.e. start with the 5 ft coils and go to the 3 ft coils as the speed came up.

If needed, I could always put another “flywheel bar” diagonal the main one. It would not need to be 10 ft, it could be 6 ft in length. More “drive coils” more power.

The Bedini “drive coils” would just be to turn the “flywheel” as efficiently as possible. They would obviously be driven by and recharge batteries. The main power would be harvested from the PM turbine at the hub.

I even thought that I could put a vertical shaft on it and run it threw the roof of the shop so when the wind did blow I would have a hi-bred device. I am not in a good wind area so wind only would not be efficient.

I will use the spindle of a truck for the hub.

I know it will be a behemoth and cost a few sheckles but I am not getting any younger and I need a project like this to keep me off the streets and out of trouble  ;D


I have the bar already, I have the room in the shop, I have the motivation and I have been reading the forums for quite a while.

What do you think?
Dougotio