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One magnet no bearing Bedini motor

Started by jonnydavro, March 28, 2009, 04:21:55 PM

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gadgetmall

Quote from: jonnydavro on April 13, 2009, 06:27:28 PM
Hi.Here is the circuit i am using.The relay i am using can be seen in the picture 2 posts above this one and if you look closely i am only using the relays coil.The way i made my coil was i bought two rolls of 26swg wire.each one had 250grams off wire on and was 170 meters long.I wound these onto a spool i got which had speaker wire on it.I made it like this as it is easy if you start off with the same lengh off wire for each winding and it seems to work good.The standard Bedini coil and lidmotors coil should work just as well as other people have replicated with different coils.It is important to put both variable resistors in.I have the 1k one turned right up to 1k and i just leave it alone and adjust the speed with the 10k pot so i could replace that with afixed resistor but your circuits may behave differently so you want this as a tuning option.Another benefit of adding the relay coil apart from reducing the amp draw is that you can recover bemf from it with a diode and cap.Hope this helps regards jonnydavro.
Jonnydavro you reported why your coil looks so different than a radio shack coil and 170 meters equates to 558 feet per wire . I think this is why you can run it so low on the volts . Do you know of  anyone who build a lidmotor style coil that is running this setup on 1 volt ?

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Pirate88179

Al:

I am running mine on the Lidmotor coil and it works fine.  It is very efficient.  I have not added the mods that Jonny has to get my power requirements lower.  I believe he has added a cap and a relay to do this.  This is my next step.  But, mine did run from the EB/maxcap at 2.3 volts so I am not that far away.  PS  I love your cap and I am so glad I purchased it.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

jonnydavro

Hi.I have done a few tests with a  joule thief circuit and the joule thief will light the Led from 9" away from the main rotor,i have enclosed a pic.For this test i had the satellite running in a top from a washing up liquid bottle,the type with a plunger and it works really well.
Regarding lenz law and this setup.Lenz is alive and well but that does not mean we can't run lots off satellites with loads without stalling the main rotor.From what i have seen from my setup the main rotor can spin many satellites and its just a question of ballancing the loads you place on them.There will be a point when the lenz force from all the satellites will stall the rotor but there is one thing people are forgeting here.We are using a Bedini motor so as rotor speed decreases,so does the amp draw.With the free roaming magnet i am using the ampmeter does not stay still for long but in limotors latest vid,with his stablised Top,he shows this effect with his circuit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1pV-zHUWck

I measured the current in series with an Led today and at
2" from the magnetitwas 2.6mA
3 1/2" 1.8mA
5"  1.3mA
and the current decreases as you move outwards but like i said earlier in the post you can still run a circuit at 9".Regards jonny

xenomorphlabs

Cool Jonny !
Thats a good test and satisfying measurements !

gadgetmall

@ Pirate . thank you Bill for responding on the lidmotor coil . that is encouraging that it runs from the monster cap :) I am Glad you are finding good uses for it. I also love those ultra caps . theres nothing like them . Have you tried the satellite balls ?

@jonny
Hey that is Great information and thank you for taking those Measurements . a bigger pickup coil should produce more amps . and 4 more pickups should equal the input . Yes Bedini's are very different "motors" . in that the spin is free . the pick up might not be .I can say without a Doubt that Some Bedinis are OU . and i like the one volt battery setup you have .  AA's are cheap compared to 12 volt sla.s or 9 volt . I wonder what you will think of Next  ???  :D also Concerning your red washing cap  have you tried to put a little soap in it and see if it spins faster ?

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