One magnet no bearing Bedini motor

[gadgetmall]

@Gadgetmall- You're progress is awesome! Here's a simple example that may help. Imagine a simple solenoid, a tube with a handful of windings. and a magnet plunger that we propel with a pulse. If we increase the field strength of the plunger, it will travel further in the tube with the same pulse current, right? So the greater the magnet strength, the more the spinning magnet is going to turn on the pulse coil.

Hi . and Welcome on behalf of jonnydavro me and the others testing . . Your first post is flattering  Thanks a bunch . I am not sure what you are trying to describe:) I know that because the magnet egg spins on mine slow that the transistor ON time which turn on the power coil to keep the rotation wobble going is very slow compared to something that spins at light speed which turns on the transistor 100's of time a  second . mine maybe 5 times a second .the voltage required looks to be about 2 volts so far on this coil at 1 Ma  to keep the magnet wobble spin .I have seen it dip lower to 0.83 milliamps . In this case more voltage (12)did nothing but raise the current draw after adjustment to 2 and 3 milliamps . it did not go faster because of the area of my trigger coil is limited . once the edges of the magnet hit the trigger area it stays there .the edges of my magnet ride on the red . that is how much it will stand up . now if i did this coil litz then it would stand up straight and spin like crazy .. I have a 5 strand litz i will also try again now that i got the circuit working and know what to look for . this run the heavy 1 inch tube magnet very fast i am sure . i will play with tank s on the base pots to reduce the current draw . one thing is the relay coil indeed reduced the draw dramatically ! i have not even tried to capture that energy yet . i forgot jonny is doing that . You need to make one and join in the Fun .this is what i do for fun   once you see what it does its addictive . i am so amazed at John Bedini's stuff as you know the rotation of the magnet is free and an extra source of power . He uses opto coupler in in his book of circuits . I bought it for 50 dollars and it contains some interesting information not available on the net .
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[xenomorphlabs]

@Gadgetmall:

Thanks for the photos and the detailed description.
It becomes apparent that you have made a main coil with quite different dimensions from what Jonny, myself and others use for their main coil. Seems like the diameter is even smaller than the length of the snake egg. Also the fact that you dont use an actual bifilar coil, but limited to trigger winding to the upper quarter of the coil winding it on top of the power winding is interesting.
Is it wound the same direction as the power winding (i mean clockwise or anticlockwise?)
Is it also the same gauge than the power winding (AWG 24) ?
That opens room for a lot of speculations.
If i am not mistaken the trigger coil is then actually only exposed to one magnetic polarity of the power coil becoming an electromagnet during the induction. Maybe that offers a big advantage?
Also commwarrior has found out that windings on top of main coils can have only a minimal Lenz effect on the magnet/power coil when wound in a certain direction in regards to how the power coil is wound (not sure which)
Possible capacitive effects between the trigger and power winding are also reduced.

Very interesting really.

110 V relay coil ? Ahh one of them magic ones, okay that will be impossible for me to find anywhere hehe.

Keep it up,
Xenomorph

[gadgetmall]

@Gadgetmall:

Thanks for the photos and the detailed description.
It becomes apparent that you have made a main coil with quite different dimensions from what Jonny, myself and others use for their main coil. Seems like the diameter is even smaller than the length of the snake egg. Also the fact that you dont use an actual bifilar coil, but limited to trigger winding to the upper quarter of the coil winding it on top of the power winding is interesting.
Is it wound the same direction as the power winding (i mean clockwise or anticlockwise?)
Is it also the same gauge than the power winding (AWG 24) ?
That opens room for a lot of speculations.
If i am not mistaken the trigger coil is then actually only exposed to one magnetic polarity of the power coil becoming an electromagnet during the induction. Maybe that offers a big advantage?
Also commwarrior has found out that windings on top of main coils can have only a minimal Lenz effect on the magnet/power coil when wound in a certain direction in regards to how the power coil is wound (not sure which)
Possible capacitive effects between the trigger and power winding are also reduced.

Very interesting really.

110 V relay coil ? Ahh one of them magic ones, okay that will be impossible for me to find anywhere hehe.

Keep it up,
Xenomorph

The second trigger was wound the same direction of the power coil . Actually the trigger coil is a little smaller than the width but when the magnet wobbles its edges stay on the trigger coil so you can get an idea of the height of the wobble spin . I go this relay from an old militarist power distributions box . i am lucky in that i have a 10 acre surplus yard 7 miles from me and i can look all day long and get a bucket full of neat old military stuff for a few dollars ,including meters coils transformers switches ,and they have barrels of magnite and iron filings and chromium powders and yea its great .they have all the old univac computers and neat stuff with lights ,relays switches . In fact i unwound a transformer to get that 500 feet of green wire for this coil .  secondary WIRE is #26  I GUESSED at the primary wire  I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS . the coil and spool i made is three inches long .As far as relay coils gos you got one . just find an old barber shop hair clipper (the one that buzzes)and get the coil out of it .I this 220 volt coil will be even better i pick them up at the flea market for a buck and they make NICE picups !!!lots of windings . Other common Sources of relay coils are on washing machines water control valves and ice making refrigerators water controller solenoids and most Tvs that are thrown away have a few relays in them for a delay / also remember the yoke on a tv tube is full of wire . As far as the trigger goes  it takes two magnetic polarities to make the transistor do its thing . Of Coarse the power coil is also producing two Voltage polarities , one to repell and the other bemf to charge the secondary . I am sure the trigger is absorbing some of that energy but not much. now if i wind one more coild aroung this setup i will have a way to pull the induced voltage from the power coil threw the trigger coil  i think . ? anyways . its a done deal on this first one here . i am happy with it and am already making the second one . I have 6 strong magnets so im making 6 rotor s/coils / Why stop at the 10 or 11 bedinis i all ready made . this is fun  . I want to give one to my dad and my brothers . i can run a Jt off the secondary battery and light 30 and 40 white leds with a tiny 2 milliamp drew on a germanium transistor tanked Joule thief . this is Very interesting .
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[synchro1]

Bill
Thank you for the Source of the tube magnets . i order 4 of the 1 inch and a 3/4 inch one . I am now also an affiliate with them . thank you so much . I am getting lost in the bedini sickness again . i thought i had done it all and now look at this thing . i bet this will be an easy ou device shortly when combined with a Jt . Mine running at 1 millamp and putting out a 100 look s promising !

Albert

I'm stuck in Ecuador right now a long way from my shop. I'm really itching to get back and tinker. In the mean time, it looks as though you simply wrapped an output coil around your power coil. There's no way the additional 100 ma can be attributed to back emf right? I am completely flabbergasted by your claim! I don't see how anyone could improve over your wobbly low amp draw high output ratio. I can't see how anyone could improve over 100x COP. This makes any other form of power generation obsolete. Seems like a good place to stop.     

[gadgetmall]

I'm stuck in Ecuador right now a long way from my shop. I'm really itching to get back and tinker. In the mean time, it looks as though you simply wrapped an output coil around your power coil. There's no way the additional 100 ma can be attributed to back emf right? I am completely flabbergasted by your claim! I don't see how anyone could improve over your wobbly low amp draw high output ratio. I can't see how anyone could improve over 100x COP. This makes any other form of power generation obsolete. Seems like a good place to stop.   

Well Its nothing for a bedini to produce high volts but its cool to see one do it on 1 milliamp and 2 small batteries . . i have built more than i can count on one hand and they all fire neons on the out put . The coil i wound over the power coil is called a TRIGGER . We can help you build one .
I Don't Claim anything that hasn't been proved already by someone however 1 milliamp is really nothing . Its due to the Slow Wobble spin , I'm making a Video of it the week as soon as i can tidy it up a bit .

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