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The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

Started by Mannix, January 30, 2006, 06:18:53 PM

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bob.rennips

Quote from: weri812 on April 13, 2007, 10:09:26 PM
@eldarion

how about this

Am I right in assuming the diagram in the above quote (need to go to the quote to see diagram) is correct, in regards to what Otto is basically doing ?

My understanding of what this circuit should do in a traditional electrical sense is:

1. The pulse is OFF, the 12volts goes through the coil and lights the bulb.
2. When pulse in ON, the lamp is shorted out, and goes OFF. Because the lamp is shorted out there is no voltage drop across the lamp so the coil sees a larger voltage across its terminals which means a larger current and hence a larger magnetic field in the coil.
3. When the pulse goes OFF,  the lamp is no longer shorted out, causing a voltage drop across the lamp, which in turn means a lower voltage across the coil terminals. This means part of the magnetic field of the coil must collapse rapidly. A rapidly collapsing magnetic field will put a reverse voltage spike onto the wire.
4. The voltage spike will dissipate as a momentary high current through the lamp, causing the lamp to momentarily glow much brighter.

There will be an optimum point where the frequency is such that the OFF period is just long enough to allow the coil to reach maximum magnetic field for the applied voltage before switching ON. In the same way that you don't see an AC supplied 50Hz tungstun filament light flicker, you will not see the flickering of the bulb.

Expected observations from a tradition electronics view point should be:

1. A cheap volt meter will read the voltage as somewhere near the momentary collapse voltage - possibly as high as 30volts. It won't give you a correct averaged over time volts reading.
2. The persistence of image on the retina will give the impression that with the pulser the light is brighter than without the pulser.
3. 1AMP @ 12volt = 12 watts is going to dissipate a fair amount of heat in the coil and bulb, if you consider the heat that comes off a 40watt bulb.

From what you describe the theoretical observations appear to match your real world observations ?

Have you confirmed that if you keep the above circuit the same but have the coil no longer wrapped around the central wire that the observations are different ?

I do believe totally in the TPU existence but do not understand the significance you attach to this circuit and observations. I would appreciate if you could expand on your findings and thinking.

Cheers, Bob


Mannix

Otto,

I think that you may have finally resolved something Important about the collector .

Steven never said (and was not allowed to say)wether the collector was multiple turns or a single turn.

Who would have thought that hundereds of volts was available from a single turn?

That would mean that the cut TPU is could possibly be shorted at both ends and is a mass of short pieces of  wire...

I always wondered why the big one seemed top have a gap where the terminals were,now it is making some sense.

I really hope that evey body here has done the first single wire"particle accellerator?"
test.
This thread will not go well for you if you have not.so go and do it NOW.
It is likley that you will be ignored by most here if you have not ...nothing personal

Thanks Otto..........we are moving foward ...

Lindsay

Mannix

Quote from: bob.rennips on April 15, 2007, 07:39:43 PM
Quote from: weri812 on April 13, 2007, 10:09:26 PM
@eldarion

how about this

Am I right in assuming the diagram in the above quote (need to go to the quote to see diagram) is correct, in regards to what Otto is basically doing ?

My understanding of what this circuit should do in a traditional electrical sense is:

1. The pulse is OFF, the 12volts goes through the coil and lights the bulb.
2. When pulse in ON, the lamp is shorted out, and goes OFF. Because the lamp is shorted out there is no voltage drop across the lamp so the coil sees a larger voltage across its terminals which means a larger current and hence a larger magnetic field in the coil.
3. When the pulse goes OFF,  the lamp is no longer shorted out, causing a voltage drop across the lamp, which in turn means a lower voltage across the coil terminals. This means part of the magnetic field of the coil must collapse rapidly. A rapidly collapsing magnetic field will put a reverse voltage spike onto the wire.
4. The voltage spike will dissipate as a momentary high current through the lamp, causing the lamp to momentarily glow much brighter.

There will be an optimum point where the frequency is such that the OFF period is just long enough to allow the coil to reach maximum magnetic field for the applied voltage before switching off. In the same way that you don't see an AC supplied 50Hz tungstun filament light flicker, you will not see the flickering of the bulb.

Expected observations from a tradition electronics view point should be:

1. A cheap volt meter will read the voltage as the momentary collapse voltage; possibly as high as 30volts. It won't give you a correct averaged over time volts reading.
2. The persistence of image on the retina will give the impression that with the pulser the light is brighter than without the pulser.

From what you describe the theoretical observations appear to match your real world observations ?

Have you confirmed that if you keep the above circuit the same but have the coil no longer wrapped around the central wire that the observations are different ?

I do believe totally in the TPU existence but do not understand the significance you attach to this circuit and observations. I would appreciate if you could expand on your findings and thinking.

Cheers, Bob



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