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Steven Marks Tube Power Supply

Started by wattsup, March 31, 2009, 01:38:50 AM

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Grumpy

Quote from: otto on April 01, 2009, 01:11:06 AM
Hello all,

@Grumpy

I started to wright how I see a working TPU but it has no sence because I would need a lot of guessings.

What I want is to start a "race" in my collectors. Do do this I have to measure the lenght of my collectors. I want to tap into this collectors at exact points. In this way have the particles the lowest speed on the start point until they arrive to the 2. point where another frequency is added. This 2 frequencies are then travelling to the 3. point in the collectors where a 3. frequencie is added....when we have a real race in our collectors then we have done a very good job because then we "only" have to use our controls.

I will try to start such a race with 12V from the power supply, then 24V, then with my loved 5U4 tube.
I want first to use 12V because Im learning and I want to see the differencies between 12V, 24V and a tube.

Yesterday I had luck and removed 4 turns from my heating transformer so I have now 5,8V ( without a load) for the heating of my 5U4 tube. This was a f...g job not to damage the other turns of this heating coil.

Otto

This is just a suggestion, but with a multifrequency TPU, maybe you should start with only one collector and bifilar controls over it and two frequencies.  If you can not find the effect with two, you will never find it with three and if you cannot see the effect on a single collector, you will never see it on three collectors.  So, start with something simple.

Try this little test.  It will help you to understand the aether better and might assist you when tuning.

Fill up a bucket, sink, or tub with water.  A lake is better, if you are near one and it is very calm.

Drop a small object into the center of the container of water.  The object is your pulse.  The ripples of water are the response of the aether to the pulse.  Notice that the initial repsonse is very fast, water may even break free and rise above the surface.  This is the shockwave.  Watch the ripples closely.  The shockwave is followed by smaller waves as the surface of the water oscillates.   This is the aether oscillation that everyone seeks to see in their coils.  If the ripples encounter and object, they flow around, or are reflected by the object.  By tuning the second pulse slightly behind the first pulse, you are catching this shockwave as it reaches the second coil and then you pulse and increase the wave velocity or amplitude or both.  If you miss the initial wavefront, you can still catch one of the smaller waves behind the intial wave.  If you pulse the intial wavefront "dead on", the converted power will be phenomenal, so you tune deliberately off this be a very slight phase angle (which may be translated into a small degree of time).

The reason you can use this configuration (the bifilar wires an two frequencies) is that the pulse excites the aether into a brief oscillation, but this oscillation is preceeded by an initial travelling wave - just like when a transmission line is struck by lightning.  This is also why you can use a variety of switching devices.   You do not have to switch in picoseconds as there is plenty of power in the smaller waves and more than you need in the intitial wavefront.

With three frequencies, you spread the squeezing effect out over a larger area of space and you squeeze more of the hose with each pulse.  It is exaclty like squeezing a hose and this was SMs best clue.

With a single collector, you can only squeeze a certain number of times due to the circumference and pulse requirements. If you connect additional collectors, will the pulse requirements change because the aether is moving?  This probably would not matter that much and the same pulses can be used for each collector, so you can wind the collectors with the same bifilar wires.

In Tesla's initial research, there  is no way his spark gap could have quenched completely at high frequencies.  This would result in a partially conduction between pulses and this is the same as a DC bias.  Now the energy can feedback to the power source and this is probably what destroyed the generator in Colorado, and probably why SM suggested tubes for intial experiments.  I have witnessed this feedback and it is like a clap of lightning without a flash.   So, try biasing the two frequencies with a 100vDC or more and switch the pulses over the top of the DC.  This way you similate the non-quenching gap and there can not be a pulse reversal below the zero line since it is biased above it.
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Thaelin

   If you want old tube manuals and such, just visit  www.pmillett.com  and at the top is
a link to books in pdf on line. All kinds of stuff there on tubes.

thaelin

otto

Hello all,

@Grumpy

nice post but ....

OK, we are talking about tubes, water and SS.

We drop a object into the water and see the ripples. This are the harmonics of the shockwave. This is OK when I use MOSFETs but not with tubes. When we use tubes the signals are clear without harmonics. So we have only the shockwave, no ripples. Thats perfect!!!
With MOSFETs we see that the signals, kicks, are feeded back into the power supply and the voltage of this power supply rises. Thats bad because this means that the particles are moving forewards AND in the other direction.
Not with tubes. There is no feedback to the power supply. There is only a foreward moving of the particles. Again, thats perfect!!

Otto




ronotte

(I do not intend to offend anyone)

All interesting but...there is an already proven solution:  just make use of my TPU 10.7: It does exactly what you are searching :) as offered by dfro time agò.


Roberto

Grumpy

Quote from: otto on April 02, 2009, 01:03:50 AM
Hello all,

@Grumpy

nice post but ....

OK, we are talking about tubes, water and SS.

We drop a object into the water and see the ripples. This are the harmonics of the shockwave. This is OK when I use MOSFETs but not with tubes. When we use tubes the signals are clear without harmonics. So we have only the shockwave, no ripples. Thats perfect!!!
With MOSFETs we see that the signals, kicks, are feeded back into the power supply and the voltage of this power supply rises. Thats bad because this means that the particles are moving forewards AND in the other direction.
Not with tubes. There is no feedback to the power supply. There is only a foreward moving of the particles. Again, thats perfect!!

Otto

hence the use of the "gatekeeper" circuit with saturable reactors

Ev Gray used a tube diode.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards