Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[WilbyInebriated]

The site for the unworking devices is to be ignored by anyone interested in scientific argumentation. The fact that someone called Dsimanek doesn't understand that some of these devices are not unworking doesn't make them unworking.

indeed, the fact that they don't work is what makes them nonworking...

[MrMag]

The site for the unworking devices is to be ignored by anyone interested in scientific argumentation. The fact that someone called Dsimanek doesn't understand that some of these devices are not unworking doesn't make them unworking.

The reference to the site is in response to your "zero loss environment" statement. If there was such a thing, those devices could possibly work.

Your statement "these devices are not working doesn't make them unworking", makes a lot of sense. Can't argue with logic like that.

[Omnibus]

The fact that they don't work only indicates that someone has been incapable of making them work. The fact that someone has no talent or infrastructure to make a workable machine workable doesn't prove that the machine is unworkable in principle. Hwere's the proof that someone called Dismanek can make a workable internal combustion engine, for instance? Placing an unworkable internal compustion engine in the museum of unworkable devices doesn't prove that internal combustion engines are unworkable. It only shows that Dsimanek is a charlatan and has to be ignored to say the least.

Making something is one thing, scientific principles and logic quite another.

[WilbyInebriated]

The fact that they don't work only indicates that someone has been incapable of making them work. The fact that someone has no talent or infrastructure to make a workable machine workable doesn't prove that the machine is unworkable in principle. Hwere's the proof that someone called Dismanek can make a workable internal combustion engine, for instance? Placing an unworkable internal compustion engine in the museum of unworkable devices doesn't prove that internal combustion engines are unworkable. It only shows that Dsimanek is a charlatan and has to be ignored to say the least.

Making something is one thing, scientific principles and logic quite another.

whether or not "someone called dismanek can make a workable internal combustion engine" or evidence of proof of such is irrelevant and nothing more than a red herring... internal combustion engines work...   

that's cute how you reference logic while utterly failing to use it... been studying under q2?

[Omnibus]

The logic behind "these devices are not working doesn't make them unworking" is clear unless someone wants to twist logic. The museum is not set up to demonstrate a bunch of crap that doesn't work but to prove that the principle these devices are based on is unworkable. If general principles can be disproved by placing a bunch of unworkable crap in a compilation called museum then it's easy to disprove any workable principle -- just show how incapable you are and that'll do.