Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[Omnibus]

@Cherryman,

IF the bars are aligned it should be replicable in WM2D as long as the bars are at the same level

Seems the bars are at  the same level, judging from Fig. 7, but how do you do it in wm2d? Also, the egg-shaped guide for these bars has to be made precise and smooth. Can you make that egg-shaped guide (groove) exactly with the shape shown in the patent?

[Omnibus]

@Cherryman,

It should be something like what @AquariuZ did (see attached) but with the wheel with the tiny grooves you drew yesterday and a precise oval of the egg-shaped groove. Of course, replacing the balls with dumbbells, if that's possible in wm2d.

Of course, weights, initial velocities, dimensions (200m diameter is too huge), precision and all that should also be set properly.

[hartiberlin]

Oke, If the program isn't fooling us..  Here is proof we can lift a weight back up to its same height...



Good work Aquarius!

You always use too much weight in your simulations !

A 19.5 Kg weight can not kick a 2000 Kg wheel as the simulation shows.. !
This would not work as the 2000 Kg weight would have much too much inertia.

I just tried to change the weight of the 2 wheels down to 1 or 10 Kg and
then it does not work.

You really need to watch out for your weights.

It seems WM2D has problems with big masses.

Regards, Stefan.

[Grimer]

Too much cognitive dissonance I suppose. 

[hartiberlin]

Probably saying that centrifugal force is not a true force is a bit confusing because the body does experience it. The emphasis should be on the fact which you clearly point out that it is a reaction to a force for which you have to spend energy to create. That is, centrifugal force cannot be used to create energy. On the contrary, energy is spent to have centrifugal force appear. This has to be understood well because it causes a lot of confusion and false expectations, which is evident even in the latest posts.

Hi Omnibus,
many thanks for setting this clear.
I also mixed this up.
But to speed up a wheel from 100 RPM to 200 RPM you also have to put in energy to do this,
to overcome the inertial rotaional impulse conservation of the masses of the wheel, so you need to
spend a lot of energy to speedit up and to get a higher centifugal force.

So just converting potential energy with a ball going through some circles to create
centrifugal forces and release the ball, when the centrifugal force will have the biggest
value will not get you more energy than you spent by converting the potential height energy
mxgxh.

Regards, Stefan.