Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[Cherryman]

Does anyone know if there is a program like WM2D that can handle 3D?

WM3D  would be nice. i have a new idea.. and i cannot simulate this in 2d i guess..

Anyway does there is a 3D program with similar features around? 

[fletcher]

Omnibus .. I have a friend who is very experienced in using wm & he's given me a few tips over the years, for ease of management & reliability - one of the things he does is to [as broli & others have suggested] is reduce the iteration factor down as low as bareable & up the calculation accuracy as high as your patience will allow [approx 200-250 frames is a start] - also if you have the message "inconsistent physical constraints" occurring then it usually means that two parts are overlapping - the brief explanation is that no two parts can physically exists in the same space so you get erroneous energy entering the program pushing them apart - take care with the placement of parts by using extreme zoom if you have to.

He also prefers to import odd or complex shapes etc from autocad etc [dxf files etc] rather than build them with the polygon function - I don't use other programs & import but I see a lot here do - he also cross checks results that seem unusual by driving the wm sim via an excel spreadsheet for inputs, as a cross reference - that is, if you want to bother or you think there might be something fishy going on.

His one mantra to me has always been SIMPLIFY, SIMPLIFY, SIMPLIFY - cuts down opportunities for errors & reduces calculation time - often there are multiple ways to simulate the same thing, some less complex than others - if they all give similar results then the reliability goes up, IMO.

If I remember anything else of relevance I'll mention it !

[Omnibus]

Now, @Cherryman, you're really sinking into this which is getting to be frightening. The MiB's are really gonna get you this time. lol.

Listen, let's first "replicate" Abeling's patent as close as possible. I'm way off at the beginning of the AutoCAD learning curve, so won't be of any help any time soon. Can you draw the wheel exactly as it is in the patent and then affix it to the barrier of your device EF2000.wm2d, scaled down to 1m diameter? That'll be a good start. No motor, please.

[Omnibus]

Omnibus,

I recall my earlier reply in another thread where Constantinesco's patents granted before 1922-23 era were also asked for, here it is:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3354.msg165174#msg165174

And here is a link to all his patents available at the European Patent Office:

http://v3.espacenet.com/searchResults?locale=en_EP&ST=quick&IA=Constantinesco&compact=false&DB=EPODOC

He had over 300 different patents,  maybe Hans could be of help on pointing to some,  where either the Milkovic setup or the wheel discussed here are in same way involved.  I simply have no time to wade through the 300 patents.

rgds, Gyula

Thanks Gyula. Hans just sent me Constantinesco's patents. Clearly, however, I'm more interested in the discussion at hand so I'll postpone for now looking into them. Anyway, if what we're discussing is the real thing then it will be a moot point discussing patents such as those of Constantinesco anyway.

[Omnibus]

@fletcher,

reduce the iteration factor down as low as bareable & up the calculation accuracy as high as your patience will allow [approx 200-250 frames is a start]

Where do you actually click to do that, especially to control the number of frames? Also where are the data located to export them into Excel?