Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[Omnibus]

@stgpcm,

If there's anyone dishonest that's that fellow who broke his word. He's really dishonest. As for me being dishonest for not showing proof, you're out of your mind to call me that in view of all the proof I've provided. It's a different story that you don't get it. And, obviously you're afraid to go ahead with vector diagrams because they will be refuted at once.

As for the persistent sideways residing of the center of mass, it applies for all possible positions of the rotatiing part. Not so in your case.

[stgpcm]

@stgpcm,

If there's anyone dishonest that's that fellow who broke his word. He's really dishonest. As for me being dishonest for not showing proof, you're out of your mind to call me that in view of all the proof I've provided. It's a different story that you don't get it. And, obviously you're afraid to go ahead with vector diagrams because they will be refuted at once.

so, you can't do them.

As for the persistent sideways residing of the center of mass, it applies for all possible positions of the rotatiing part. Not so in your case.

where don't they in the third diagram?

[Omnibus]

The CCW motion due to guides isn't possible because guides are not providers of driving force. @mondrasek at one point was having these ideas but they are wrong -- mass doesn't leak into the guides. he only role of guides it to change the direction of the driving force derived from the ball and thus divert the ball from the natural path it would have under the action of the entire force derived from it. Therefore, the presence of guides is to diminish the value of the total force derived from the ball as well as change its direction of action. This, combined with the forced shortening of the corresponding arm inevitably leads to lower torque value. All these considerations are in absence of friction. Presence of friction is variable and discussing its role comes only after the above is understood well. In other words, only after it is understood that in absence of friction this wheel is a perpetuum mobile. When this is understood the engineering part of the project kicks in whereby situations should be sought to decrease the forces of friction to levels which will not overcome the excess torque which makes the device a perpetuum mobile. First thing to be understood is what is this construction which would ensure the greatest value of the net torque at every position of the wheel. That's the theoretical part of the engineering side of the project. Once this is understood, search for materials, lubricants etc. begins. That's approximately the general scheme of research which is usually followed in such projects and that's not a whimsical idea to do it that way. If done in the above way reaching the goals of the project will be achieved sooner and with less bumping into stone walls.

[Cloxxki]

The CCW motion due to guides isn't possible because guides are not providers of driving force. @mondrasek at one point was having these ideas but they are wrong -- mass doesn't leak into the guides. he only role of guides it to change the direction of the driving force derived from the ball and thus divert the ball from the natural path it would have under the action of the entire force derived from it. Therefore, the presence of guides is to diminish the value of the total force derived from the ball as well as change its direction of action. This, combined with the forced shortening of the corresponding arm inevitably leads to lower torque value. All these considerations are in absence of friction. Presence of friction is variable and discussing its role comes only after the above is understood well. In other words, only after it is understood that in absence of friction this wheel is a perpetuum mobile. When this is understood the engineering part of the project kicks in whereby situations should be sought to decrease the forces of friction to levels which will not overcome the excess torque which makes the device a perpetuum mobile. First thing to be understood is what is this construction which would ensure the greatest value of the net torque at every position of the wheel. That's the theoretical part of the engineering side of the project. Once this is understood, search for materials, lubricants etc. begins. That's approximately the general scheme of research which is usually followed in such projects and that's not a whimsical idea to do it that way. If done in the above way reaching the goals of the project will be achieved sooner and with less bumping into stone walls.

All very nice, but you are neglecting to take into account the role that the slots play. Design these wrong, and you will indeed see a wheel turning the wrong way. I've explained this before, but it probably got lost in someone's yes/no game.
If you don't believe me, write out a contest and I'll take the prize.

When the weights are carefully distributed, the CCW effect can be overcome and all we get is a short but sharp decelleration of the wheel, for the benefit of the weight at 9-12:00 which will be catching up with the rest of the wheel.

[Omnibus]

@stgpcm,

where don't they in the third diagram?

That's for you to answer.

The crucial feature of the perpetuum mobile is that never for a given weight the guide is sloping the same within one full turn. The guides themselves retain their constant slopes throughout but they are experienced in turn by successive weights. Thus, seen as a whole the weights are on an infinite slippery slope.