Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[LarryC]

Please cloxxki, stgpcm is an intelligent contributing member.

His posts are honest and well thought out, based on a clear understanding of the wheel in the real world.

The abusive, abrasive, bulling attacks are from one source only, omnibus. These three lists are toast while this constant
harassment of contributing members is allowed to continue.

This list could be fun and constructive if individual members could post their ideas in comfort, free from ridicule and abuse. But as long as ONE member is allowed to make 75% of the posts and stomp down any member who might dare to violate the "master bully's" guide lines then this is exactly what you will see... chaos.

Ron

Edit: "to win this fight."
    ... explain to me, why should it be a fight?

Cloxxiki,

I would like to second Ron's opinion.

Regards, Larry

[Cloxxki]

Thanks gentlemen. I could in this case tell the difference between the two fighting dogs here already.
But as I read recently : if you argue with an idiot in public, the public may not be able to tell a difference.
Obviously, OB is not reponding to the treatment administered to him by stgpcm. Their exchange of messages obscured the topic of this thread.

[Omnibus]

@stgpcm,

This reveals it all:

The only role of guides it to change the direction of the driving force derived from the ball and thus divert the ball from the natural path it would have under the action of the entire force derived from it. Therefore, the presence of guides is to diminish the value of the total force derived from the ball as well as change its direction of action. This, combined with the forced shortening of the corresponding arm inevitably leads to lower torque value.

If by lower you mean of greater magnitude I agree. but I suspect you don't.

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

The presence of guides can in no way increase the torque when a body of a given mass is considered. The weight of this given mass will always be the same independent of whether this mass is sitting on a table, freely falling or sliding on an incline Any force that is derived from this mass can only be of lower (smaller, lesser) magnitude than its initial one. Given mass can only deliver as much as ti actually is, no more.Therefore with guide, considering the effective mass which acts to create a torque, as in our case, the torque which this mass will create can only be lower (smaller, lesser) than the torque this mass can create without a guide but for the same arm. Guides cannot create more mass than the mass than the mass initially given.

Now, after this exchange, quite useless, as a matter of fact, you only deserve to be ignored. Your obvious blabber needs no further response.

[i_ron]

@stgpcm,

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Now, after this exchange, quite useless, as a matter of fact, you only deserve to be ignored. Your obvious blabber needs no further response.

AQUARIUZ,

Different day... same shit  (why do you tolerate this?)

I see the mylow hoax has come unraveled (small pun)       ... it was string drive.

Now we need to apply the same scrutiny to the wheel. Two working models show that it doesn't... are we missing something?

Could I suggest you, or someone, phone Sjack again and see if there has been any progress on the weight plant, after all it is mid May.

We need some confirmation, better yet would be his promised (?) explanation that he was going to do.

Regards

Ron

[Omnibus]

Abeling states it clearly that he won't release any additional information due to a ban from his investors or he'll lose their support. Otherwise I'd pay him a visit personally right away.

This project has to be continued without Abeling's input and I've outlined earlier the general scenario for the research, now that the reality of perpetuum mobile has been confirmed beyond any doubt. Incidental mishaps with the reproduction cannot serve as a basis to conclude that something confirmed to be doable isn't so.