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Overunity Machines Forum



Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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AB Hammer

Greetings Ralph

I didn't say it would work. But it would IMO have a better results. This is the reason I am not building it, but Dusty is and this would be an easy try for him. But these guys want to exhaust all possibilities before they give it up. To just keep saying it won't work, eggs them on more. But we have better avenues to work on.
With out a dream, there can be no vision.

Alan

Alexioco

Ralph can you send me ur email address again, thanks....

This wheel thing of his is just taking far to long, if it turns out to be false then all this work on this particular wheel will be a waste of time... Bessler has left far more information and I think he should be given more attention...

Alex
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Lift up your hearts for He is true.

AquariuZ

Quote from: Alexioco on June 12, 2009, 08:48:33 AM
Ralph can you send me ur email address again, thanks....

This wheel thing of his is just taking far to long, if it turns out to be false then all this work on this particular wheel will be a waste of time... Bessler has left far more information and I think he should be given more attention...

Alex

Alex, we do not know you are right. All this is for now is a gut-feeling and the fact that he has several reputable companies on board.

His patent and site (mooieenergie.com) by itself is indeed not much to go on, but we cannot stop thinking about how he makes his wheel work because, well, at this time he is NOT going open source and if it can be done, we must try and find a way with his patent and the information available as baseline.

Many have already given up, no need to mention who, you know who.

I for one hope that Dusty and Eisen are still on board, and we need Omnibus and Mondrasek too!

We just need to find the missing link, the omitted part from the site & patent to see what he sees.

Is it possible he simply has a concept and he just "thinks" it works. I must leave room for that possibility. But I rather like to think he has had a running prototype as early as 2007, why else all the fuss?

Yeah, I know I got carried away with Mylow, but Abeling is not in the same league.

Mylow is a whole other can of worms with a different agenda all together.

With regards to Bessler, you are right. I did research him as much as I could and came to the conclusion he did have a working setup. Even though this was centuries ago, this does not mean that the men of nobility and honour would give out certificates and testimonials on a wheel that would not work. On the contrary, giving false testimony would result in public execution.

Yes, Bessler has something but with all due respect, he was an idiot for not revealing his secret once it was clear noone would pay his outrageous price. Now he is nothing more than a ridiculed myth and he has noone else but himself to blame for that.

If I were him I would have constructed wheels and sold them to e.g. millers or miners. He was smart enough so why not make an enclosure that could not be opened hence guarding the secret and still providing the work to whomever needed it?

He could have made a fortune selling his wheels and have fulfilled his dream of creating a christian academy. Ah Well.

With regards to my PM, please create a subsection for Abeling, Alex. Thanks.

AZ

Dusty

I'm still on board.  It just takes time to work on this stuff.  I've been taking note of all the ideas here and trying to figure this out.  Time will tell one way or the other.

Dusty

i_ron

Quote from: AquariuZ on June 12, 2009, 09:41:26 AM


Yeah, I know I got carried away with Mylow, but Abeling is not in the same league.

Thanks.

AZ

I think we just about all were at one point.


Azy,

Here is an interesting little fact.  The tethered pendulum travels further but arrives at the bottom in the same time as a free fall weight.

This means its velocity must be higher in the tethered mode.
If its velocity is higher then its potential energy is higher.

I bet the sims don't reflect this point, lol

Ron

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2mdAvdPhT4