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MylowHJ Replication - Discussion

Started by wattsup, April 04, 2009, 08:49:58 PM

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vince

Thats only when the loop is open and it coasts to the first cluster .  For some reason it does not want to start the sequence again and finds a sticky point.  I post a video if I can get it to actually start again, otherwise there really is nothing to see.

Vince

Michelinho


Hi vince,

Try using fridge magnets, the rubber type to ease the entry or exit of a magnet bank. I think HJ used those on his Stonehenge motor made of wood and with a center rotor. I have seen a video on Youtube last year where the entry of a magnetic gate used this type to cancel the forcefull entry of the magnetic projectile.

You can affect one pole of a horseshoe magnet by placing a small neodymium  inside or outside the arch, depending which you want to cancel out.

Take care,

Michel




Omega_0

Quote from: vince on April 07, 2009, 11:34:50 PM

By taping the ceramic magnets to the paper clips I can position them anywhere on the wheel.

First of all you don't need the horseshoe magnet. Facing a north pole and a south pole to the rotor works just as well.
What I found was that clustering them in groups of 3 or 4 then a space it would easily pull itself around on it's own (PROVIDING YOU DON'T CLOSE THE LOOP)., all the way to over 300 degrees of rotation. 


Well, I must say, you have a proper system to experiment with here. Congrats !.
What people do is, they set up everything in cement, don't leave any scope of adjustments and variations, and when that fixed setup fails to work, they declare it a failure and give up forever.
Imagine the thousands of possibilities where it can fail and there is only one or may be a few variations that can succeed.

So, go ahead and EXPERIMENT. And my sincere advice is - try tilting the wheel a bit, let the gravity assist. The wall can be overcome either by gravity or by inertia, something is needed to break the equilibrium.

A perfectly balanced wheel will remain perfectly still...... so your observation is correct, when you close the loop, there is a perfect equilibrium and the wheel will come to rest when disturbed.

You may get it going a few turns by assisting it with gravity or inertia or may be a small pulse, but it can again stop... no problems, just feed some energy back which you got from those few rotations.

Remember, Mylow's rig was tilted initially, he had to balance the table which he admitted in a video and had shown it with a spirit level, and after that video he could not produce the effect..... Well who knows.... :)
I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison

lostcauses10x

The only thing different in all of this is his video showing his stator magnet in the iron fillings folks. It would have to be the key in this. Everything else is the same we have all seen before.
Does any one disagree with this?


cloud camper

What needs to be different here is to get rid of the USELESS B fields. Push and pull do not cut it, never did and never will.  What worked for HJ was the short range vortical spin fields that remain after the
push and pull B fields are eliminated.  This is why HJ had a Patented and Working PMM.  Push and pull just mean symmetry in action.  Push and pull B fields only work with electromagnets where the field can be turned on and off.  What worked for HJ was to sink out the B fields using heavy permeability plates
exposing the vortical spin fields.  Also, he used long channel magnets with SHARP corners to separate the N and S poles.

I like all the steel in Vinces design but don't see any separation between the N and S poles.  This means
the vortical spin fields will be fighting each other and cancel out.  We need lots of steel, lots of separation
between the N and S poles, and sharp corners on the rotor magnets to maximize the spin fields.