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Overunity Machines Forum



MylowHJ Replication - Discussion

Started by wattsup, April 04, 2009, 08:49:58 PM

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ellubpt

Quote from: markdansie on May 24, 2009, 06:16:16 PM
Will polls be allowed or just strickly technical talk?
http://www.99polls.com/poll_66574

Will people, without being rude be allowed to give critical reviews of the devices?

I am being polite as I agree if this is your thread, then you have the right to set the rules.

I know a cheap source of magnets if anybody wants some . The person have enough for 16 complete sets of mylow motors. He bought them prior to the revealing Mylow tapes. he is open to offers.
If anyone is interested I will get him to come here so people can contact him.

Kind Regards
Mark
Mark, which magnets are sale? How much does he want for them?

Thanks

Omega_0

Quote from: wattsup on May 25, 2009, 01:28:01 AM
Unfortunately Sterling has no bearing on the builders and what he does can be discussed elsewhere. Geez we have threads open to cater to your every need because here at overunity.com, WE AIM TO PLEASE.

LoL...

Anyway, thats lots of magnets to play with. I can assure you its better than TV.
What I've found while playing with my Alu wheel and 36 block magnets, is that its VERY EASY to get the wheel turn by 355 or so degrees, but it never completes the turn, it just refuses. No matter how many magnets you add or how many different ways you arrange them. Even tried stators of different shapes and combinations of magnets.

It will become slower if you add more magnets, finally when you complete the circle, it just sits there on any random sticky. I guess everyone here knows that. This setup is nothing different.

Its also easy to build a 'gate'. You can arrange magnets in many ways to get a gate, where the stator prefers one direction to the other. However the energy in = energy out, even if it doesn't appear so to your eyes.

The secret is not in the arrangement or spacing or such, because it seems that even though the magnetic field is a complex thing, and not all is taught in text books about it, it surely is conservative, which means the integral of forces around a closed path adds to zero. Thats why you won't get any work out of a static arrangement of magnets.

That of course doesn't mean that there are no other ways to get to the ZPE, (dynamic stator is one possibility) lets see.....
I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison

robbie47

Quote from: wattsup on May 25, 2009, 01:28:01 AM
When I get my bar magnets, I want to work on a clipping system that will enable me to position the rotors just as easily as with my neos. Otherwise I feel the gluing will be bad for trying so many testing parameters. Does anyone have any ideas on this or is using something  now that could help?

Hey Wattsup, good to see you keeping up this thread, cleaning it and allow for continuation.

As for clipping the rotor magnets, for each rotor position I use 2 magnets that have the rotor plate in between. When I look to your pictures you did the same with neo's. This is a very convenient way to move rotor magnets around.
Another method may be using double sided sticking tape.
But for weaker magnets plastic clips will work best, I agree. Best options for that is a camping shop where they sell table clips to prevent table cloth to be blown off the table.

In parallel I am simulating this motor with FEMM, a free available 2D simulation program.
Exercising with that learns me a lot about what the effect of moving magnets around in this setup is. When time allows I'll share some of these later on if sufficient interest exists.
I have no expectations to find the clue of this setup by simulations however, its just helping to understand how magnet basics work and help me in the right directions to understand how Mylows adjustment method works.



Omega_0

I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison

robbie47

Nice pictures Omega, I was not aware of the existence of Vizimag.

FYI I am concentrating on the forces that occur and also the Magnetic field changes in the aluminum to judge the eddy current effects.
I use FEMM to calculate the forces, cogging points and field strengths and process them using Excel